ellen his cross talk guests discuss whether the foreign intervention in libya or pave the way for al qaida to take root in the country. can. start. to think. hello and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle opening the door to tear the al qaeda franchise has been largely absent from the arab awakening in north africa people appear to be embracing democracy and not radical islam however this may change the military intervention in libya and the violence in yemen could be an opportunity for al qaida. can. still. discuss al qaeda in the arab world today i'm joined by an old abbas like he's in washington he's a senior political scientist at the rand corporation also in washington we have been rami he is a human and civil rights program director at the muslim american society freedom and in austin we go to derrick crow he is a political director at the brave new foundation in another member of our cross talking you know on the hunger right derrick in austin you got up early as for this program so i'm going to go you first. is thanks to you know during the day we look at the transformation of t

is support from nato well washington is considering arming the libyan rebels despite claims that al qaida has infiltrated their ranks experts here american weapons could end up in the hands are to count. the international community permitted intervention in libya to protect civilians from colonel qaddafi but washington wants to go further than that and is considering arming the rebels while officially denying that toppling canal is the objective of its involvement in libya but broadening our military mission to include regime change would be a mistake president obama has reportedly signed a secret order authorizing covert american support for rebel forces seeking to oust the lead in leader critics of the u.s. taking sides in a civil war war of the consequences we help accelerate the chaos. and in creating more chaos we're to we think somehow we're going to be able to direct the outcome it's the same hubris that has visited the united states in iraq the same humorous that keeps us penya and in afghanistan causes us to believe that somehow we are going to wreck events and the outcome in lib

could backfire further rebel leaders include the libyan islamic fighting group and associates of al qaida and the casualties mounting every day from allied bombing make fertile recruiting ground for and she western forces and their. agents. working now in libya in that atmosphere of chaos. i am full. e.u. muslims protest against nature's bombing of libya and the organizer says people should prepare for the worst that's certainly there's a very strong likelihood but i think what we do not have the ability that the muslim brotherhood our track they will try to make sure. the invasion of iraq lived through a surge in terror attacks in the e.u. almost two hundred people died in the madrid train bombings in two thousand and four while suicide bombers killed fifty two people in london in two thousand and five officials know dritte similar results in the wake of this campaign western intelligence reports chris activity among suspected terrorist cells indicating the threat of attack is high one officer told r.t. an e.u. terrorist strike is now just a question of time. see fossils when washington

among those of them was osama bin ladin whose group of eventually evolved into al qaida these cannistraro cia and alice is an operations chief in the 1980's says that then the us didn't see the dangers of arming afghan militants. and what we've seen with the tribal society. through its support. and leading to. the reconstruction. over two decades after arming the afghan mujahedeen america is now considering giving weapons to another rebel band with an unclear identity simply because of who they're fighting against ghana check out r t washington d c. in syria president bashar al assad has appointed a new prime minister after dismissing the old cabinet tend to ease the unrest in the country dozens have been killed in two weeks of fighting the government blames outside influences for the turmoil independent journalist james corbett believes foreign military intervention could be on the cards. the president is being set right now with the libyan case and if they're able to get away well i suppose if the forces of western imperialism are able to get away with this in libya then it's really jus

washington is considering training and arming the libyan rebels despite claims that al qaida may have infiltrated their ranks. of has been speaking with opposition supporters in benghazi following the recent nato air strike nearby that left thirteen dead. the general feeling here in the rebel stronghold is confusion a lot of confusion around that incident because according to some reports the time of need of planes on the rebels was caused by troops. to the rebels that opened fire at the planes but other reports suggest that the rebels were celebrating and began shooting into the air confusing the pilots and also true. to react back but i can tell you that judging by the pool level of water cooler organization and training of the rebel fighters both versions are possible because the rebels had been seen arguing and even fighting them on themselves there on the front many are teenagers who don't have any experience in combat and there is even speculation and lots of rumors of that egypt and the united states and we see we training the rebels there on the front and also rumors of cia se

among those of them was osama bin ladin whose group eventual evolved into al qaida robyn's cannistraro cia and alice is an operations chief in the 1980's says back then the us didn't see the dangers of arming afghan militants. and what we've seen with the tribal society. and leading. some reconstruction. over two decades after arming the afghan mujahedeen america is now considering giving weapons to another rebel band with an unclear identity simply because of who they're fighting against. gannett check out r t washington. forces continue to impose a no fly zone over libya there are concerns that. europe security experts. plotting terror attacks in revenge for strikes. e.u. countries have taken the lead role in forcing the u.n. resolution but their efforts all the way over in libya now threaten to bring conflict right to their very own back doors i list claim colonel gadhafi now has little other weapons left in his armory that oversees terror he's faced repeated accusations that he ordered lockerbie bombing that killed two hundred seventy mostly westerners and experts say some countrie

change the military intervention in libya and the violence in yemen could be an opportunity for al qaida. to. start. discussing al qaeda in the arab world today i'm joined by an old abbas like he's in washington he's a senior political scientist at the rand corporation also in washington we have graham rami he is a human and civil rights program director at the muslim american society freedom and in austin we go to derrick roe he is a political director at the brave new foundation in another member of our cross talking on the hunger or i guarantee in austin you got up the earliest for this program so i'm going to go you first. is that we've thanks you know during the day we look at the. transformation of the arab world the him the embrace of democracy and getting rid of these vicious dictators have been around for for decades the dictators and some of people on the right wing of said be careful al qaeda is out there to take advantage of it but we've seen successful growing successes in the arab middle east but now we have the intervention in libya and we're hearing al qaeda again do you

mouthpiece for one of the world's most wanted terrorist and declared by the un to have links with al qaida local morra is responsible for some of russia's most horrific recent terror attacks moscow metro blast and the doma dad of airport bombing which in total killed almost eighty people and injured nearly three hundred cycles doku umarov a president transmits messages about those he views as his enemies and carries ads for books about the life of a mujahideen islamic fighter the situation is that the standard. and he's associated they are working for the politicization of islam used to be our spring feel about europe they want to make radicals the grail thorough search is being prosecuted not for aiding terrorism but for illegally smuggling some one hundred individuals into finland people who he calls freedom fighters the way that the percent that writes about the situation. it's a contaminating the finished. writing of the same way. underworld. through. this is the company that houses the website located right in the center of how sinky meanwhile opponents of islamic extremism or those w

thought to be a link to al qaida and he's wanted in russia he's wanted internationally it's not clear whether this man was killed or not but there was a major major or special operation that could. probably go should still last month where authorities covered the terrorist piece and the seventeen terrorists were killed as a result of the special operation and at first there was news that the whole lot of it was one of them now there's no proof it was either him or god so it's there's no also no proof if he's alive at the moment but this man organized serious terrorist attacks across the tire pressure like i said he stopped the late to al qaida and he took the responsibility for the eight of them i did avoid the airport. is a major target for the authorities but fortunately they said there's still no confirmation that he was killed in that special mission. or thanks very much indeed for the latest in just one more time we like to remind our viewers who may be just joining us that a militant leader in russia's southern republic of dagestan has been killed during a special overnight oper

country's security forces killed two notorious extremists in the north caucasus both have links to al qaida were believed to be behind many deadly attacks in russia as. russia's north caucasus witnessed a number of successful anti terror operations last sunday a key militants leader is that you'll believe john up was killed in that russia's unteach terrorist committees the most wanted man who has personally pointed what you're gonna pass the hat of militants in dagestan in october last year now it's also believed that the village on up was the fault in almost every terror attack that happened in the region and was also linked to the most school metro bombings last year he was among the four terrorists that were killed a week ago and i just honestly there hailed the operation a success and stop at the militants only understands the language of force. because some of the militants are willing to engage in dialogue you may reject this when we urge them to lay down weapons and returns with peace. having committed so many murders and terrorist attacks they know you understand the language of for

country's security forces killed two notorious extremists in the north caucasus both have links to al qaida. very deftly attacks and russia as. the russia's north caucasus a witness the number of successful anti terror operations last sunday a key militants leave that is that people believe john up was killed in dagestan russia until terrorists committees that's the most wanted man who has personally appointed what you gonna as the heart of militants in dagestan in the pool but last year now it's also believed that the village on up wasn't in almost every terror attack that happened in the region and was also linked to the multiple metro bombings last year he was among the four terrorists that were killed a week ago and the hailed the operation a success and said that the militants only understand the language of force. because some of the militants are willing to engage an. insulator and weapons and. having committed so many murders and terrorist attacks they know you understand the language of force meanwhile and not in a tour as terrorists figure was killed a saudi militant known estimat

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taurus terrorists figure was killed a saudi militant known as smoke was so identified as a chief al qaida agent in the north caucasus he was also received by the militants as the absolute religious authority as well as an influential field commander despite the strength of high profile success russia's security forces still say there is no evidence that russia's most wanted terrorist martyr has been killed hopes could be eliminated one of the operations in english a terror were shattered when d.n.a. tests found no presence of him among the dead meanwhile u.s. claims responsibility for a number of terror attacks that russia including the most cool natural suicide strikes and the bombing of the capital main airport still there is no clear information of just where russia's most wanted terrorists might be hiding in the north caucasus. on the special forces to crack down and start on our website and also we're also told as suspects in the recent matter of loss to the problem russian capital were kept on camera through tales and food at archie dot com. from the world war and bad. a new crisis

libyan surface to air missiles when arsenals were looted nato intelligence reports claim flickers of al qaida and hezbollah have been found among the rebels in libya but maintained there is no reason to believe their presence is significant but a u.s. military study three years ago said lidia's made up the second largest group of jihadists in the world right after saudi arabia all of that seems to be discarded as the u.s. is trying to prop up the opposition in libya as some analysts say in an attempt to forge a relationship with them that would be favorable for the united states in the future but experts say as of now the opposition in libya hardly has a defined face or power these people. will not be able to take control over the situation as soon as the current regime. goes off and this means that somebody else will be. tempted to take over the country and we know that the only will organize. world force in the region not in the country but in the region is unfortunately some say arming the rebels could backfire we've been in this situation in afghanistan one day we help people and the next

was killed as saudi militant also known as my gun yet were so identified as a chief al qaida agent in the north caucasus he was also preceded by the militants as the absolute religious authority as well as an influential field commander now rushes on to terrorist committees that he was involved in almost every terror attack that happened even russia in recent years now despite the strength of high profile success russia's security forces still say there is no evidence that process most wanted terrorist martyr has been killed holds could be eliminated one of the operations in english instead were shattered when d.n.a. tests found no presence of him among the that meanwhile he has claimed responsibility for a number of terror attacks that russia including the most cool natural tween suicide strikes and the goldwing of the capital's main airport still there is no clear information of just where russia's most wanted terrorist might be hiding in the north caucasus. well you know question the reporting there all go to our web site com for more food each of the special operation in dagestan

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among those of them was osama bin ladin whose group eventual evolved into al qaida vince cannistrarocia and alice is an operations chief in the 1980's says that then the us didn't see the dangers of arming afghan militants. and what we've seen were tribal so. you know it's. leading to. some reconstruction. over two decades after arming the afghan mujahedeen america is now considering giving weapons to another rebel band with an unclear identity simply because of who they're fighting against ghana shut down r t washington d.c. for this historic connections exist on many levels but what can we learn from them and to what extent could history repeating itself earlier i spoke to philip giraldi he's a former officer with the cia he's only why he thinks the u.s. is falling into some of the same patterns mistakes as it did in afghanistan and also as to why as to why the u.s. is so interested in libya in the first place. but there we say that history doesn't repeat itself but it tells you certain things and i think that what we're seeing here is essentially we're falling into the same mistak

for al qaida or other terrorist networks to use the current situation unfortunately do you have some data indicating that there is such a possibility and that terrorist groups would like to take this opportunity and this is another reason for us to be very careful in what we do and how we do it and we need to be very careful even with the words that we use thank you very much . so there we are the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov wrapping up a meeting with the press he was addressing members of the press after the russia nato summit that's just happened in let's a touchdown on the main focus of what to say that being the issue of libya and he did say that the u.n. resolution one nine seventy three does allow for the use of force however the main objective is to protect civilians and he has been saying level of said that he has seen some action going beyond what the resolution says he also heard comments about a possible ground invasion which said would be absolutely unacceptable he said there's only one solution for libya and that is a political solution that should be next in

of this militants were soon identified as a chief agent of the international terrorists a group al qaida in the north caucasus now russia's antiterrorist committee says that he was in charge of all cash flows of funds that paid for terrorist activities in russia i do is wish that one of those killed was a dignified as an agent of the carter's network in the north caucasus a native of saudi arabia. has been graced in the north caucasus since nineteen years you know and it was also did he go into or in coordinator of the funds coming from a group to fuel the militants in russia. alongside the motto was russia's most wanted terrorist was the most notorious figure among terrorists and was also perceived as saying absolute religious authority as well as influential field command here in the north of caucasus now russia's antiterrorist committee. he was also identified a by the militants as a rival to dog as the main leader elf islamist militants of the north caucasus he was also believed to be involved in almost every terror attack that happened across russia over the last two years and indee

which justifies keeping a good mo detainee without any proof that he was actually involved with al qaida so bring you details on this ruling and will determine if it's just another glaring example of obama going back on his promise about closing guantanamo bay next we'll look into how the mainstream media is covering libya when m s n b c hosts a very strong statements on the show last night which lead us to ask if the mainstream media is choosing partisanship over analysis and then could there really be a silver lining to the budget bickering in congress the democrats and republicans may have finally reached an agreement about probably won't make the tea party very happy considering that they took their anger to d.c. to protest today so what's going to happen next we'll find out the answer to that and much more and tonight's show but first our top story. nato has now officially taken sole command for air strikes over libya and they debuted a brand new flashy title operation a unified protector. but this operation seems to be anything but unified with the international community's split o

right now that in our republic we've arrested course a few emissaries of all kinds of organizations al qaida and others people from many countries used to come to go to stand today thank god the situation is more under control of all. more reliably protected but nevertheless in some cases they are able to smuggle money and weapons in is a type of work that we should go on with we must cut their supply lines but unfortunately the terrorists all have the message of the source of funding they have no shame they are not common characters or extortionists they extort money from business people and this is dangerous because the development of business in the economy we see this as the biggest obstacle to our economic growth. how safe are people in the mountains as i understand in the us a man recently attacked a roadblock how safe is it is billions in the mountains. is just in some districts or areas that the situation is dangerous for most today stan is a quiet and safe place where people live and work knowing no such problems a law enforcement agency function normally in the entire territory of

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russia's war on terror in the caucasus claims a high profile target after security forces killed a top al qaida militants it's believed he was involved in most of the recent atrocities in the country. well time now for march of andrews to show you the latin of flavors of the russian capital margarita salt added mexican food are just some of the treats on offer in this week's moscow out android. i love i love the program on this christmas the last several weeks like that and everything with phil and family and the wrestling so fun to listen to this last reply saying that someone else is not so says he's a disappointed when it comes to fiery and dismissed the singer rhythm i might have . to choose from keep him as you andy the words here he's given a dance cost and russian is key to being a popular holiday just a nation for muscovites many of the time to concede that he just moves back in moscow finale krypton's cause he cost three hundred fifty rubles that's around ten dollars but you try and block the maps and these guys are free to prosecute. existed just recently in our school with teach dumb

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here's mountain for the future in egypt where the al qaida linked muslim brotherhood movement is poised to question victory in the coming election. the country's first since hosni mubarak stepped down and pass power to the egyptian military on. the side of russian that. virus grew here getting this new has reportedly been kidnapped for ransom in moscow officials have confirmed they are searching for twenty year old ski who went missing two days ago. but doctors warned that the people exposed to the gulf of mexico oil spill could face a greater risk of cancer a year on and many who took part of the clean up operation are seriously ill with officials accuse of trying to sweep the story under the rug which was responsible for the disaster it's fighting a legal battle to shift the blame away from itself. while the sports news now we knew this you didn't monitor squibbing is the new black in the russian premier league it seems it seems so one person doesn't the old do it well definitely in moscow anyway because the sports like manager is gone and so is the manager bittersweet night for spart

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and its ally pakistan in the fight against al qaida seem to be on the brink of collapse covert cia operations drone attacks and civilians deaths have prompted islamabad to rebuke washington and demand it reduces its presence in the country refinishing reports from the pakistani capital. here in islamabad officials say the relations between the u.s. and pakistan are today at its worst since nine eleven and there are many reasons behind the deterioration a case in point is that of raymond is a cia spy who shot two pakistanis in growed daylight earlier this year claiming they were trying to rob him this incident exposed huge concerns over the activity of for us the private security firms similar to those operating and iraq others claimed it was real work was all neutralizing the car drees nuclear arsenal which is to become the world's largest pakistani officials here in islamabad say they have no idea how many you asked contractors are currently functioning in pakistan and what their identities are nor their purposes and unacceptable situation the u.s. obsession with firing drones into pakistan

aesop terrorists recently the united states of america knowledge that dot com are of has links to al qaida but it apparently seems that for finland is not what the rest of the world knowledge is as a tyra's but if freedom fighter now with all this in mind what is the posture of prosecuted for apparently for acknowledging facts which the rest of the world know . keys were describing a terrorist a terrorist but in finland this does not seem to be a case i was startled prosecuting those people now all these prostrate is facing legal charges themselves. all right israel thank you very much indeed for bringing us the details on this case and you're going back many of the chairman of the finnish caucus his friendship society says one stance is attracting terrorists to the country the fact that finland is so full of promoting interest of cubans and so for more of when he's so-called limited. we will bring terrorists to resume and to finland which actually is the fact because we have an aggressive. system or for members of terrorist organization. in finland. while a terrorist you have to have thei