here is the reverend al sharpton. >> why do we have dei? we had dei because you denied us diversity. you denied us equity. you denied us inclusion. dei was a remedy to the racial, institutional bigotry practiced in academia and in these corporations. now, you want to put us back in the back of the bus? we are going to do the doctor king rosa parks on you. >> "the view" cohost, sunny hostin, launched her own attack. >> thinking about that, and donald trump saying things -- that this country would be in -- and a meritocracy. you were talking but a man who didn't become the president of the united states because of merit. really, he had no political experience whatsoever. he had no business experience. he was given everything he has. he is a legacy higher. he is, if anything, a dei hire. >> my head is spinning. where's your sunny hostin and -- >> you look at al sharpton. "i'm going to get my network going. i'm going to raise some money. this is a great moment for me." he quotes martin luther king like he's on his side. he is the exact opposite

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. >> the president has reportedly also been convinced of all people al sharpton to issue more pardonsing up. >> i spoke to reverend al sharpton and he said he wanted the president to issue a pardon for state attorney marilyn mosby and jesse jackson junior can we expect to hear an announcement on any high-profile such as these. >> an equity get ahead of the present help make more announcements are pardons and commutations the president and his team is working. they're trying to figure out the best way forward. that inspires confidence given what they've done so far. i think the translation from k jp there are more pardons coming may be part of the laundry list from al sharpton. i want to start with you on this. a question about the possibility and the likelihood that biden will not determine an de- press conference he avoided questions are the unprecedented way throughout his term just to make a journalistic standpoint. isn't it important for the leader of the free world to answer in a formal setting questions as he exits the stage. >> of course it is. in the white house briefing k jp

now, we had things off to politics nation with reverend al sharpton. d al sharpton. a private ceremony just wrapped up at the carter presidential center. i will talk to one of carter's collaborators in congress about the connections he made beyond washington, and across racial and gender lines. just outside of washington, d.c., though, the newly reelect did republican speaker mike johnson is holding a strategy meeting with his republican colleagues as they gear up for the new legislative session. the first order of business is to certify the election results on monday, the fourth anniversary of january 6th. >>> in new orleans, the investigation continues into the deadly new year's attack that left 15 people dead including the perpetrator. we will tell you about new revelations about the type of bomb materials recovered there, that's coming up. but we start the show with congressman ro khana. a private service just wrapped up at the carter presidential center after a moment of silence was just held at the georgia state capital. the public will be able to pay their res

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al sharpton wants to reenact 1961 forever.em to know the civil rights act was passed and most institutions have been systematically favoring racial minorities and african-americans for decades through affirmative action, di and other programs. we are now gone back, a new generation at a new america. we don't want affirmative action, di or segregation of any kind. we just want a simple system for everyone can trust america's government will treat them equally. that's what we are fighting for. >> this is why people see trump one, a sense of relief out of cancel culture. enough of feeling bad because you're not a minority or are. we are done with it. john said what's next? will he bring back segregated water fountains? these idiotic statements don't slightly more. you did a lot of hard work. thanks so much meg thank you. >> coming up, you won't want to miss how tim burgess, school siemens jim acosta -- cnn for now and media moments that matter. charlie arnold making a debut next. ♪ dave's been very excited about saving big with t

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but that this type of screening, al sharpton's nephew could be working at treasury and you would neverg the d.e.i. group about not giving up, costco is apparently still? so sharpton went to their and said d.e.i. thursday is alive and well. >> we will stand with those who stands up with us. costco said he would not back off d.e.i. we are shopping at costco because they stood with us. if you stand with us we will stand with them. do not led trump stop us. >> jesse: not a good look for costco. by the way you have to show i.d. to get a costco card, somebody should tell that is racist to him. vivek ramaswamy a founding member of doge and former presidential candidates. we are hearing you are leaving doge after like three days, what happened? >> pursuant elected office very soon, but things are off to great started, president trump has proven. look at the actions first week, the most pro-marriage present we have had in a long time -- pro merit. and i'm confident they will succeed in slashing and burning that federal bureaucracy. >> jesse: people said you did not get along with elon musk? wha

and as it relates to al sharpton, let me just say this, this guy is a voice in the wilderness.ycott amazon, mcdonald's, especially mcdonald's, walmart, boeing, molson's, lowes, ford motor company, jack daniel's, harley-davidson, it ain't going to work, al, and then finally, sunny hostin, this one makes me crazy. donald trump is a legacy higher? are you kidding me? donald trump is a legacy higher? what the hell the woman you supported kamala harris not only as a legacy higher, no one even voted for her. >> dana: all of those things and dei was like a tapeworm in the government, harold come it started and got bigger and bigger and bigger and people were depended on it and it is killing you. >> harold: so have a slightly different opinion. [laughter] where i agree with everyone, i believe that competence and being qualified and being capable have to always be the forefront and the guiding principles for anybody hired for anything. i think sometimes the opponents of affirmative action or dei, sometimes i think either intentionally or unintentionally or inadvertently seem to suggest

now we just got to execute. >> is dea dead because al sharpton, he's still in the trenches. >> well, funny thing about dea, we use this word ironically, it doesn't even stand for its own principles in the name of diversity. what happened is we sacrificed true diversity of thought. and in the name of inclusion, we've created this new culture of exclusion where certain points of view just weren't welcome. that's un-american. it was neither diverse nor inclusive and die and merit. you got to pick one. you can't have both, either group quotas or meritocracy. there's no middle ground. and i think one of the things not just the republican party stands for, but you could see vast swaths of the american population stands for, is that we stand for merit over group quotas. that's the american way. and i think that that's what made this country great. >> what's happened to the democrat party? >> they're lost. they're lost in the wilderness. speaking as an american, i am rooting for a better version of that democratic party to reemerge from those ashes we are, because i think it will make our it

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race hustlers like al sharpton are on the scene. >> we're going to do this, race needs to be dealt with. donald trump can cancel a commitment they made, it is an outright front to the black, brown, lgbtq and gay community. we will stand with those that stand with us. costco immediately stepped out and said they will not back off dei, we are calling that buy-in. >> laura: sharpton back to old shake-down demanding companies embrace racial vision or else. n. le t donald trump stop those from boycotting them. we will not [inaudible] >> laura: but what is there to boycott here? the end of racial discrimination and hiring is exactly what ending dei does. people of all races voted against the dei divisiveness and sharpton is not paying attention to the facts though. they are too inconvenient for his narrative. supported by his comrade of left wing media idealogue. >> a majority people voted for this. this is the disgusting version of america that people want and oh by the way eggs are still more expensive. so, you didn't even get that great job white folks. dei is a policy invented by white fo

. ♪ >> laura: little wishful thinking dei isn't doa yet because al sharpton on scene [inaudible] >> we're to do this dealt with. and donald trump be able to cancel a commitment they made is an outright affront to the black community, brown community, lgbtq, gay community. that is why we will stand those that stand with us. costco immediately stepped up and said that they would not back off dei. we are calling a buy in. >> laura: sharpton and a few that still follow him. they are back to their old shake down. demanding that companies embrace their racial vision or else. >> not stand with us. let donald trump stop those from boycotting them. we will not [inaudible] >> laura: but what is there to boycott here? the end of racial discrimination and hiring is exactly what ending dei does. people of all races voted against the dei divisiveness and sharpton is not paying attention to the facts though. they are too inconvenient for his narrative. supported by his comrade of left wing media idealogue. >> a majority people voted for this. this is the disgusting version of america that people want an

as long as we had racial divisions, al sharpton got paid. as john carey spoke of the dangers of co2, he could fly private around the globe, spewing more gases than jerry nadler in the capitol men's room. after -- after a bowl of bad clams. >> okay. >> greg: and why was america first so hard to understand? perhaps they heard, oh, america is better than everyone else? and that pissed them off. but america first does not put the country above others, anymore than putting your family first means it's better than other families. it's just the top priority. this could be why liberals are hated by their kin. they would rather save the smelt than visit grandma. and now both republicans and democrats look at what trump is doing and they think, wow, this wasn't that hard. why didn't this happen before? well, because either they didn't want it or didn't have the balls to do it. now we got a guy who does. but the ease at which these changes are accepted, it speaks to the degradation of a country previously under no leadership. trump's effectiveness mirr

kamala harris appeared before al sharpton's group to spin her loss which brings us to kamala's word ofay. win. >> our definition of the win, is the definition that takes us over a period of time. we're a part of how we measure the wind is are we making progress. how we measure the win is based on the knowledge that it is an enduring fight. whatever the outcome of any particular moment we can never be defeated. >> laura: shocking that she lost. just shocking. i love how she nods. she gestures and then she nods. it's a very interesting approach. >> raymond: you will never be defeated you just lost. unless you own a casino you shouldn't be using the word win after you lose a major election. this is a disaster. but you are right. this is why she lost the election. she never could level with the audience or the voters. >> laura: inauthentic, tedious and not very bright. >> raymond: also taking her laos bow is first lady jill biden. she has not forgiven nancy pelosi, laura for shoving biden out of the presidential race. she tells "the washington post," quote: i have been thinking a lot about

. >> laura: they are very uncomfortable including al sharpton who is very worried about the impact oft the so-called tech oligarchs are going to do with dei. watch. >> you have these tech oligarchs running things. and now looks like they're influencing government. and the president is saying we are going to end diversity, equity and up collusion then where does it leave a lot of people that women, blacks, others, the last 60 years to get in and now you shut the roof off on us. and you have the government to enforce it. >> laura: michael, i mean, five minutes ago like he was shaking down corporations to give to the national action network and he loved them. but now they are kind of waking up to the dei disaster. and he is miserable. >> yeah, i mean, look, it's happening everywhere, right? it's a return to the american roots, the american creed of individualism. egal tear i remember, equality of opportunity. it's now anybody can set the agenda on x. we saw a few weeks ago that the america first folks had a battle with elon musk over the h 1 v visas. it's really not the case of oligarchy

. >> martha: this is al sharpton's reaction at the national action network on monday, watch this. >>in academia and in of these corporations. now you want to put is the back, in the back of the bus? we will do the doctor king rosa parks on you. >> martha: a lot of these programs really blossomed after the george floyd situation, and a lot of corporations bend over backwards to get in line with what they were told was expected of them. your thoughts? >> that attitude you just heard there is not the dominant view into this country anymore. people lamenting the end of this have to remember, this is entirely stood up by joe biden, he embraced it on the campaign trail after the blm rights and choosing kamala harris. he basically enforced it through all arms of government, it is not a long-standing institution. you getting back to equality under the law rather this manufactured idea of equity that joe biden invented into the federal government. >> martha: brandon talked about is this morning, an attempt to play it, he said they were spending millions of dollars promoting it. the larger par

kamala appeared before al sharpton's to spinmack ore daless which brings us to kamalo word of the day >> our definition of the win is the definition that takes us over a period of time. where part of how we measure the win is are we makingho progress? how we measure the win is based onon the knowledge that it is an enduring fight. whatever the outcome of any particular moment, we can never be defeated. >> laura: chucking that she lost.nd just talking!. i love when she nods. she gestures then she nods. a very interesting approach. >> you will never be defeatedyo here to give just lost.te unless you want a casino, yor u should not use the word win after you lost an election. this is a disaster!di enyou are right, this is why she lost the election, she could never level with the audience. >> laura: and infante, tedious and not very bright. >> also taking her last ball isn first ladycy joe biden and notce forgiven nancy pelosi, laura for shoving biden out of the presidential race. t relashe tells, i've been thina lot about relationships. we were friends for 50 years anh it was disappointi

but planed that look of al sharpton and the angry hysterics, he is on a grifter that without racism he to go home. does not have that show on msnbc, they do not put him on tv without perceived racism. these people will always push this nonsensical stuff? what you said in your points there was absolutely right, nobody and it is a renewed america, just watch what days ago, cares about this stuff. if you are confident, if you're a good person and a hard worker, do you will succeed. that is why all of our ancestors came here and that is what is being reignited right now. that is why i am so excited about where america is headed. >> will: a little under 40 minutes until this clock sets on d.e.i. the theme of donald trump throughout his years in office was the deep state that was against him, one of the first actions of what he has been doing so far appears to be dismantling that permanent washington. he put this on truth social he fired over 1000 people, he said my personal presidential office is actively in the process of identifying and eliminating thousand appointees that are not aligned

. >> brian: more al sharpton. >> steve: both sides talking about today. meanwhile, carley joins us right now. and you got news from overseas. >> carley: i certainly do. overseas in turkey officials have detained nine people in connection with a deadly fire at ski resort hotel. the fire broke out on a restaurant floor of the 12th story building yesterday, 76 people were killed and dozens more hurt. survivors say no fire alarms went off. >> the hotel's owner was arrested and those who work there are cooperating with authorities. and to a fox wildfire alert here at home. the number of dead from the los angeles wildfires has now risen to 28. this as strong winds increase the fire risk across southern california. and crews are making progress as they battle a wildfire in riverside county. that one broke out yesterday. it is now 40% contained. and on a hopeful note the region is going to get its first rain in months. and he is not just a sharp dresser. is he, quote. fascinating, too. first son barron trump getting praise from luxury clothing brand nathan piers.

the reverend al sharpton joins us.s the president of the national action network, the host of msnbc's politics nation. here at the table with us, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is here. vaughn hillyard, i start with you. everything about what happened today was something that trump sought to off ramp himself from. he sought to delay the trial, had some success. it was delayed, but it happened. sought to have the incoming deputy attorney general of the united states. i think todd blanch, his criminal defense attorney, have it thrown out before, during and after he did not succeed. there were efforts to shape the outcome as it was ongoing. there were efforts to intimidate at least some of the witnesses while it was ongoing. there was an extraordinary intervention by the united states supreme court, including by four of them yesterday. donald trump didn't want what happened today to happen, and it did. >> the supreme court last night, justice amy coney barrett, justice john roberts, they did not intervene and stop

eastern, house minority leader congressman hakeem jeffries will be on politics nation with the rev al sharpton later. 9 p.m. eastern a special hour of the weekend to preview the inauguration. be sure to join us monday. morning joe kicks off inauguration coverage at 6 a.m. eastern. then at 10 a.m, rachel maddow and the team will bring you the key moments of the day, followed by analysis from prime time anchors throughout the evening. don't go anywhere. the last word with lawrence o'donnell starts right now. >> earlier this evening, president biden gave us his final interview as president of the united states. we were working with a tight time limit because the next thing on the president's schedule was a national security meeting. in fact, by the end of the interview, which president biden allowed to go well over the time limit, national security adviser jake sullivan was waiting for the president to leave. despite the extra time, we did not get to many of the questions that i spent days writing for this interview. the news cycle pays attention to president's public statements. history pays att

the reverend al sharpton, plus host of the fast politics podcast.er in the show, the sadistic conduct toward the most powerful members of society. people like john bolton and mike pompeo, who were high level cabinet officials in the first trump presidency, to the most vulnerable members of our society, school children who may be in households with mixed status, all of them in trump's sights this week. >> when you look at the fact that we're only on the fourth day of his presidency. >> don't we count monday? can we say five? count money. okay. >> and he has in four days started raiding homes. that has maybe mixed in terms of whether or not they have the immigration papers or the right papers. he's defunded or halted the funding on health or on nih that we all need cancer research. we're talking about we're not talking about experimental stuff, cancer research. he has closed down the civil rights department of the department of justice, and he has declared war on dei. and this is all before he went to bed thursday night. so when people heard many of u

the reverend al sharpton joins us. he's the president of the national action network, the host of msnbc's politics nation. here at the table with us, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard is here. vaughn hillyard, i start with you. >> everything about what happened today was something that trump sought to off ramp himself from. >> he sought to delay the trial, had some success. it was delayed, but it happened. sought to have the incoming deputy attorney general of the united states. i think todd blanch, his criminal defense attorney, have it thrown out before, during and after he did not succeed. there were efforts to shape the outcome as it was ongoing. there were efforts to intimidate at least some of the witnesses while it was ongoing. there was an extraordinary intervention by the united states supreme court, including by four of them yesterday. donald trump didn't want what happened today to happen, and it did. >> the supreme court last night, justice amy coney barrett, justice john roberts they did not intervene

eastern, house minority leader congressman hakeem jeffries will be on politics nation with the rev al sharpton the weekend to preview the inauguration. be sure to join us monday. morning joe kicks off inauguration coverage at 6 a.m. eastern. then at 10 a.m, rachel maddow and the team will bring you the key moments of the day, followed by analysis from prime time anchors throughout the evening. don't go anywhere. the last word with lawrence o'donnell starts right now. >> earlier this evening, president biden gave us his final

reverend al sharpton, my big brother, and inside pastor. and paola ramos, thank you for your brilliant reporting. thank you all. and that is tonight's reidout inside with jen psaki starts now. >> okay. >> let this sink in for a second. >> today started with the outgoing president, joe biden, who's still president at the time, obviously preemptively pardoning the people who investigated the january 6th attack on the capitol and the officers who defended the capitol that day. now, just a few hours later, the person who incited that attack took the oath of office for the second time in the very same building, the capitol, where the attack took place. and just moments ago, literally in the last 15 minutes in the oval office, which is a choice, trump issued pardons for approximately 1500 people convicted of crimes related to that attack and commuted the sentences of six others as well. and we're going to spend a lot of time talking about that through the course of this evening with a lot of people who know a lot about it, but but i want to catch

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. >> reverend al sharpton will join the conversation on morning joe with his take on how we continue by king's teachings. today. the civil rights trailblazer is celebrated every year on the third monday in january, close to his birthday on the 15th. known for his incredibly powerful speeches and push for nonviolent civil disobedience, king was a leader of the civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s. in 1964, king won the nobel peace prize for his work on combatting racial inequality without resorting to violence. but just four years later, he was assassinated in memphis, tennessee. in 1983, president reagan signed a bill making the third monday in january, a federal holiday in observance of king's legacy. and still ahead this morning, the latest from the middle east, where three israeli hostages have been released after the long awaited cease fire between israel and hamas went into effect. plus, we'll talk about president biden's last full day in office and his outgoing legacy, those stories and a check on sports and the weather when we come right back. >> the second inauguration of

but i want to play al sharpton on msnbc because he said something kind of interesting. >> watch these companies that are now saying they're going to back up off of diversity and equity and inclusion should therefore not have a diverse consumer base. you don't want diversity, then we should not buy your products. donald trump can't make us spend money for companies that will not deal and commit and continue with diversity and equity and inclusion. >> yeah, we have about 15 seconds for you, jennifer. but sharpton wants to punish companies that treat people equally. >> we need to hire based on merit. if part of the job description is to attract a diverse consumer base, then that's going to be part of the job description. but when it comes to firefighters in los angeles, i think it's based solely on merit and qualification. >> yeah, yeah, it was a bad, bad couple of weeks in los angeles. jennifer, great to have you on the show. thank you so much. we will have more fox news coverage coming up. president trump on the way to his final ball. we will bring you the latest on the galas, the ball

although we will take a break when the president starts speaking, we have our good friend, reverend al sharpton here on msnbc and founder of the national action network. so, rev, we do believe that president biden will be there very shortly. but let's talk about this symbolic visit. it is a historic day, as you well know, how south carolina played a pivotal role. that man as well, in securing the president presidency for joe biden. what message do you believe joe biden will send in a big picture by going there today? it'll be among the last big messages that he will be able to send to this country. >> i think he's appropriately sending a message that we must be against this heightened sense of divided americans that are looking at some people based on race and gender and sexual orientation as different than others, and to go to south carolina, where we saw a white supremacist kill people in a church, reverend pinckney and others, is where he went when he had been defeated in early primaries. and jim clyburn, who's speaking now, endorsed him and helped turn that race around the morning of the en

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table for the hour, the president of the action network, the host of politics nation, reverend al sharpton is with us. we will start on capitol hill with my colleague, nbc news capitol hill correspondent. >> reporter: hi. yes, what you can see playing out here is the military guard that is accompanying that casket of the former president jimmy carter up pennsylvania avenue. he's been on a horse-drawn case and that once carried the body of abraham lincoln many years ago. this case and is carrying the presidents casket, it was put on their in front of the navy memorial. president carter, a veteran, a graduate of the naval academy. it will then make its way up here to capitol hill where he will lie in state. he will lie in state for roughly two days through thursday when the state funeral would take place. that is an opportunity for the public and pay their respects. beginning at 7:00 tonight is when the public can begin the process through midnight tonight inside the capital and there will be opportunities again on wednesday and thursday before the state funeral. this is expected to be a sol

none other than al sharpton stood by a family sued, and a 4-year-old died of starvation, who had refrigerator full of food and turned to the wall. and the definition has green murkier, as activists begin to push new federal legislation and constitutional amendment on the subject, it's worth visiting what's at stake in the parents' rights debate. i'm thrilled to present three panels, one on legal issues, one on medical field, one on the policies and practices of child welfare agencies though there will probably be discussion on all three of the other topics as well. i think all three panels today are bipartisan, but the sides may shake out in ways that may surprise you. i want to thanks james phillips and the wheatley institute at brigham young for co-sponsoring today. in fact, this event is james' idea so anything goes wrong, you can blame him. with that i'll turn it over to my aei colleague adam white for our first panel. >> welcome, everybody, and i just want to echo naomi's greetings for all who are here today and everyone watching online either now or at a later time. looking forward to t

reverend al sharpton, also national reporter for the new york times, jeremy peters and chris matthewsto let's let's turn the page just for one minute, if we can, and talk about what you're doing today and. in celebration of the life, the ministry, the extraordinary political advancement that happened because of a georgia preacher named reverend martin luther king jr, we are here in washington today, national action network and other civil rights groups. >> we will be having a rally at metropolitan ame church. it's a historic church where in 1895, they had the funeral of frederick douglass there. >> and then a century later, the body of rosa parks was brought there. and we're going to rally to say that we must keep the things that doctor king lived and died for alive. doctor king fought for the poor, for a economic rights for everybody. doctor king fought for an open and fair society. voting rights came out of the king movement, which is under threat now, and the battle against dai, which this president, incoming president has said he was against. so we're going to as he takes his oath

al. >> sharpton, the co-founder and ceo of all in together. of florida. >> nepo baby and a man with rats. >> in his walls. >> broke into congress. thanks so much, everybody. >> for being with us. >> annie, let's. >> first. >> talk about the dueling pardons. obviously, i think most americans don't like. >> either of them. >> you look. >> at the poll. >> numbers, though, out and at least the early snapshot polls. certainly, most americans are deeply troubled by donald trump's commuting of the sentence and the pardons of very violent offenders who beat the hell out of police officers. >> yeah. >> i mean, it's. >> the it's. >> a. >> shame that. >> this happened. >> on the same day so that there is even a comparison and that people can just say they're both bad because they are different kinds of pardons. but the truth is that the pardon power is a is a problematic thing that the founders put in the constitution. and we're seeing that now. what struck me yesterday was how much republicans who in the past have expressed. >> concern about. >> pardoni

reverend al sharpton is still with us joining the conversation.r of the new york times editorial board, mara gay, and host of the last word on msnbc. >> this is big. >> so donald lawrence usually doesn't get up early. >> i mean, lawrence. speaking of truman capote, i mean, lawrence, he you know, he usually, you know, he's a late night guy. he doesn't roll out of bed till about 1 or 2. he has a pimm's cup. do you feel he looks over this balcony and looks out over the park. goes back in and sleeps for four more hours. so the fact that we have you at 7 a.m. we're so grateful. this is. this is big joe. >> i've never been in the same sentence with truman capote. so thank you for that. you're very good. >> so we'll start with you. lawrence, you had an exclusive sit down yesterday with president biden. his final oval office interview before he leaves office on monday. so during the wide ranging conversation, the president reiterated his fears about the future of democracy in america. let's listen. >> i really am concerned about how fragile democracy is.

the reverend al sharpton is here. let me ask you, vaughn hillyard, about kristi noem. she was talked about all the time. her name floated around all the time over the summer into the summer, ahead of her own publicity tour for her own book, about her own account, about shooting her own puppy, who was wild. it was reported that trump didn't love that. which is fascinating, because let me put up a headline about what trump wanted to do to migrants to this country. quote, shoot migrants legs, build alligator moat behind trump's ideas for border. this was a 2019 piece of reporting in the new york times that says this privately. the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water filled trench stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. he wanted the wall electrified with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. after publicly suggesting that soldiers shoot migrants if they threw rocks, the president backed off when his staff told him that was illegal. but later in a meeting, aides recalled, he suggested that they s

with us, host of msnbc's politics nation, reverend al sharpton. it is good to see you.ver the hell is ahead. >>> we begin with congress meeting today to certify the 2024 election with heightened d.c. after the capitol riot wreaked havoc on the certification process four years ago. nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles has more. >> reporter: congress convenes this morning with a simple yet important job, certify the ballots from the electoral college to pave the way for donald trump to once again be sworn into office on january 20th. with the president-elect's opponent presiding, harris describing her role in a video message shared with nbc news. >> the peaceful transfer of power is one of the most fundamental principles of american democracy. >> reporter: the certification will mark an important step in the gop taking full control in washington. in addition to trump taking the oval office republicans took back the house and senate last week with speaker mike johnson narrowly hanging onto the top job on the ballot. >> we have an america first agenda. >> reporte