. >> also, could you tell us about -- this makes us think of a spider-man, alain robert and not using thi equipment. how often do you see something like this? >> besides this fireman guy, this is very rare. we just hope that, you know, it doesn't encourage anybody else to try this. this is something where tying up midtown manhattan traffic at rush hour is causing a big problem and creates safety issues for the people below with all the traffic and what have you. too, as well as several other crimes. >> i was going to ask. how serious are the charges and how much of a -- how much jail time can somebody doing for doing something like this? >> they will levee a number of misdemeanor counts on him including reckless endangerment where you put people's life at risk. they are doing in manhattan and -- he is doing this in manhattan and they will be tougher on him. remember the guy that jumped off the world trade center, too? >> right. >> but whole world watching. >> right. >> live on television in the middle of the afternoon. and so now we have some officers who are right there to his right