alaister: some care, some don't care.f these are pushing the angle of legacy management. we are not only buying a catalog, we are now the custodian. songwriters and producers of modern pop songs, they can have 12 songwriters and they might not be is attached to the work as they might be if it was a single songwriter. so some people might be willing to cash out. some people can get a partial interest and try to catch some of the upside, so it really does depend. joe: great stuff, our thanks to moghan music director alaister moughan talking about the business of streaming and back catalogs. here more of the conversation out monday on the podcast i host with tracy alloway, and you can even find it on some streaming services, like on spotify. romaine: you just tried to sell your catalog. 2 joe: you are a musician to -- caroline: you are a musician too. joe: i should put my songs up there. caroline: you were performing in the real world. joe: i had a music career. i played two concerts in new york. i would have been a huge sta