alan axelrod on the other hand is low key, very deliberate, always repaired, very smart. not a lot of humor in it but people understand he's very focused and it is true jurors listen when these lawyers speak. you will not find a lawyer or judge dozing off when these lawyers are in the courtroom. cory: interesting. there have been reports during the trial she was cognizant of the jurors watching, making eye contact with the jury, trying to be charming but then very aggressive in cross-examining witnesses. is that typical of her style? judge: no question. she understands in this trial her job is character assassination, to tear ellen pao down, but do not come off as a bully. she is actually able to do that quite well and effectively because she knows. part of trying a case is show business. your job is to persuade jurors to your way of thinking and you don't do that by alienating them. she has walked the fine line between i'm tough, i will tear you apart, this is war, versus i'm still a nice person and i want you to appreciate what i'm trying to do because it is the right t