alan bates, i didn't have any advice on that, _ alan bates, ididn't have any advice on that, but— alandvice on that, but i decided _ alan bates, i didn't have any advice on that, but i decided to _ alan bates, i didn't have any advice on that, but i decided to see - alan bates, i didn't have any advice on that, but i decided to see him. i on that, but i decided to see him. so. i_ on that, but i decided to see him. so, i exercised _ on that, but i decided to see him. so, i exercised that— on that, but i decided to see him. so, i exercised that flexibility. - so, i exercised that flexibility. hasan — so, i exercised that flexibility. hasan there _ so, i exercised that flexibility. hasan there was _ so, i exercised that flexibility. hasan there was not _ so, i exercised that flexibility. hasan there was not an - so, i exercised that flexibility. i hasan there was not an inflexible rule of— hasan there was not an inflexible rule of law— hasan there was not an inflexible rule of law preventing _ hasan there was not an inflexible rule of law preventing new, - hasan there was not an inflexibl

so, it ma be what sir alan bates was writing. so, it may be you _ what sir alan bates was writing.etter— it may be you didn't even see the letter in? — it may be you didn't even see the letter in? it— it may be you didn't even see the letter in? it may be the only thing that you _ letter in? it may be the only thing that you saw was this letter? and he signed _ that you saw was this letter? and he signed it _ that you saw was this letter? and he sitned it. ., ., , signed it. that may have been the case. i signed it. that may have been the case- i am — signed it. that may have been the case- i am sorry — signed it. that may have been the case. i am sorry i _ signed it. that may have been the case. i am sorry i can't _ signed it. that may have been the case. i am sorry i can't be - signed it. that may have been the case. i am sorry i can't be more . case. i am sorry i can't be more definite, we are talking about a long time ago. i had just started my post, and i was signing a huge number of letters. i was reliant on the advice of officials. i apologise if that was not the case, and i

in i gave to sir alan bates, there was a reference to it.— i gave to sir alan bates, there was a referenceit. in the reply? in the reply on the 7th of— a reference to it. in the reply? ml the reply on the 7th of december. that may— the reply on the 7th of december. that may be because he wrote two letters _ that may be because he wrote two letters subsequent to the meeting and it— letters subsequent to the meeting and it may have been in there. i am sorry— and it may have been in there. i am sorry that _ and it may have been in there. i am sorry that t — and it may have been in there. i am sorry that i don't know. i cannot remember— sorry that i don't know. i cannot remember it being raised at the meeting — remember it being raised at the meeting. we haven't got a note of the meeting? i haven't been given a note _ the meeting? i haven't been given a note |_ the meeting? i haven't been given a note. ., r' the meeting? i haven't been given a note. . , the meeting? i haven't been given a note. ., , ., note. i asked the department for the minutes. note. i asked the department for the minutes-

key moments in the scandal happened under his tenure, that included alan bates, now sir alan bates, hisasters and the post office and several reports forensic accountants. what we have heard so far from vince cable is that he wasn't aware of the magnitude of the issues and didn't look at them closely because he was told that no attention was warranted to that degree. he said he didn't hear sir alan bates's name until he was five years in the job. alan bates's name until he was five years in thejob. we did hear that on reflection it is clear from years in thejob. we did hear that on reflection it is clearfrom his witness statement that the post office board was a failure, he said he agreed with sir alan bates's characterisation that post office's middle management were essentially thugs in suits. he said that he and sir ed davey, who was also responsible for the post office during his own tenure, they both agreed that they were authoritarian. so much of this testimony, and what we have heard in the last few months identify missed opportunities. we hear about what could have been done and

i have apologised and repeatj that apology for not meeting alan bates on the basis of his first letterment _ letter. you tell in your witness statement about _ letter. you tell in your witness statement about the _ letter. you tell in your witness statement about the letter, i letter. you tell in your witness l statement about the letter, that letter. you tell in your witness - statement about the letter, that we are looking at, it was drafted for you by— are looking at, it was drafted for you by officials. it is accurate? yea _ you by officials. it is accurate? yea turn _ you by officials. it is accurate? yea turn it _ you by officials. it is accurate? yes. turn it was approved and signed ljy yes. turn it was approved and signed by you. s. flan yes. turn it was approved and signed b ou. s. . , ., yes. turn it was approved and signed b ou. s. ., , ., , yes. turn it was approved and signed b ou.s. . , yes. turn it was approved and signed b ou. s. ., , ., by you. 5. can you help is? you sent a by you. 5. can you help is? you spent a lot— by you. 5. can you help is? you spent a lot of— by

there were bugs and errors and defects. ..and alan bates trying to expose the problems.he government and now it's time for some of the politicians involved to explain what they knew and when. i wish i'd seen through the lies of the post office executives, just as i'm sure all ministers from all political parties wish they'd done, and all the judges and courts who presided over those appalling miscarriages ofjustice wish they'd seen through the lies. first up today is this man, pat mcfadden, heading back into the cabinet after labour's election victory. he was post office minister between 2007 and 2009. each time an mp raised a question about this, the reply would come back from the post office that they thought the system was robust. they had no evidence to suggest there was anything wrong with horizon. subpostmasters think that ministers from all parties could have done more. every minister at some point has failed, uh, you know, in order to do their duty to the best of their ability. and they have a responsibility now to, you know, to come and answer the questions put

sir alan bates . and finally, one alan bates. and finally, one last story for you.o the summer heat, there are health warnings in place across parts of england, with temperatures expected today to soar above 30 degrees. the east and west midlands, the south east, eastern england and london are all included in that warning, which is in place until 11:00 tomorrow night. and with many people expected to take to the parks and to the beaches, to enjoy the summer sun. but health experts are warning people to take care, to drink plenty of water and of course, wear sunscreen to avoid any heat exhaustion . those are the latest exhaustion. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sam francis. i'm off to enjoy the sun. i'll be back with you in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thanks, sam, and good morning to you at home. welcome. this is britain's newsroom on gb news live across the uk

during that time subpostmasters were wrongly prosecuted and sir alan bates won his landmark court casehing to prevent or stop this scandal? that's what so many victims are reckoning with. lots of people have been giving evidence to this inquiry and a lot of the time they have been saying that if they had known what they know now then things would have been different. how do they get beyond that sort of narrative in this inquiry? that sort of narrative in this iniui ? . that sort of narrative in this in. ui ? ., , ., , that sort of narrative in this iniui ? ., ,~ inquiry? that something they are reiularl inquiry? that something they are regularly pushed _ inquiry? that something they are regularly pushed on _ inquiry? that something they are regularly pushed on by _ inquiry? that something they are regularly pushed on by the i inquiry? that something they are | regularly pushed on by the inquiry counsel, by victims up to you have evidence brought up and e—mails flagging issues to many of the victims in the last few months. when it comes to ministers, we have already seenjunior it comes

and he was in post from 2010—15, but he said he hadn't even heard the name allen bites, now sir alan bateshe post office another landmark case. he said he didn't even know that the post office was prosecuting its own sub—postmasters until the very end either. he acknowledged his share of the responsibility by saying there was clearly a policy failure, and that is because despite the fact that he and others in government had responsibility for the oversight of the post office, what is now seen as the post office, what is now seen as the ofjustice in uk legal history still happened, it wasn't prevented, and it was not stopped in its tracks until decades later. remember, hundreds of people were wrongly prosecuted, some went to prison over this, some lived with convictions even though they had done nothing wrong. it was the faulty horizon it system that caused this. samantha, we talked a lot about the role of fujitsu employees, post office officials, but the government owns the post office, civil servants were involved, ministers were involved, and the inquiry is trying to determine today what

the main bulk of the apology and what he is now discussing is around alan bates, the sub—postmaster campaigner

sub—postmasters and there were groans in the audience when he said he didn't remember reading sir alan bates'ses. hot for some of us, pretty humid forjust about all of us. the jet stream, the wind high in the atmosphere at searing weather systems around the globe bending to the north of our shores and allowing us to draw this very warm and humid air up from the south. feeling the effects of that this afternoon across england and wales where we are seeing some sunshine, more cloud and rain for northern ireland in the west of scotland. in the north—east of scotland, some brightness, low 205 in temperatures. in the south of england and wales, into the middle 205. those of above the average for the time of year. 28 behind the south—east corner. really humid tonight, misty and making for coasts and heels kills in the west. overnight lows of 13—17 . a pretty warm start tomorrow morning. we see that sunshine across many parts of england and wales and those temperatures will really respond through the day. misty and murky for the western coast. cloud generally for northern ireland and scotland. rain i

after the alan bates programme, i don't know, _ the alan bates programme, i don't know. it _ the alanlp other people, is anyone helping you? ida. while you want to help other people, is anyone helping you?— is anyone helping you? no, my artner. is anyone helping you? no, my partner- what _ is anyone helping you? no, my partner. what is _ is anyone helping you? no, my partner. what is next - is anyone helping you? no, my partner. what is next to - is anyone helping you? no, my partner. what is next to you i is anyone helping you? no, my i partner. what is next to you now, what is the _ partner. what is next to you now, what is the future _ partner. what is next to you now, what is the future for _ partner. what is next to you now, what is the future for you? - partner. what is next to you now, what is the future for you? i i partner. what is next to you now, what is the future for you? i don't know, what is the future for you? i don't know. you — what is the future for you? i don't know. you don't _ what is the future for you? i don't know, you don't get _ what is the future for you? i

mr bates, now sir alan bates, what do you think of that? uzanne! they cannot believe it, they are such humble people, it has always been about the campaign from them. you know that from having met them. you know that from having met them yourselves, it is just an incredible thing for the campaign that they are getting the recognition they have, and it is just such an example, likely coliseum campaign, of people power. thank you very much, both of you. time now to get the news, travel, and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm tolu adeoye. conditions at a detention centre in west london have been described as the worst in the country by a watchdog, who said the chaos was truly shocking. an inspection at harmondsworth immigration removal centre near heathrow found a substantial increase in violence and drug use with detainees openly smoking cannabis. mitie which runs the centre says it's working to make improvements. whilst the home office has said the number of custody officers and welfare staff has now increased. theatre n

. >> subpostmaster sir alan bates 15 years ago. so let's speak now to myra phillip. was it philip?p phillip? apologies. i need to get my eyes checked. her mother was a wrongly convicted subpostmaster. good morning to you.thank subpostmaster. good morning to you. thank you forjoining us you. thank you for joining us very much. appreciate it, your mother's story is, if you don't mind me saying, quite tragic . it mind me saying, quite tragic. it touched me when i was reading it this morning, myra, because she has now passed away and she. she hasn't been here to see kind of justice served, has she ? justice served, has she? >> that's correct. she, she died not knowing that she was correct. that horizon was a flawed system and that, you know, that caused all the heartache and loss , so , yeah. heartache and loss, so, yeah. >> and myra, when you saw i don't know whether you saw much of sir ed davey during the election campaign going down waterslides, bungee jumping and bouncing around on, on sort of inflatables , knowing that he inflatables, knowing that he played such a significant role

there were bugs and errors and defects. ..and alan bates trying to expose the problems. ed by the government and now it's time for some of the politicians involved to explain what they knew and when. i wish i'd seen through the lies of the post office executives, just as i'm sure all ministers from all political parties wish they'd done, and all the judges and courts who presided over those appalling miscarriages ofjustice wish they'd seen through the lies. first up today is this man, pat mcfadden, heading back into the cabinet after labour's election victory. he was post office minister between 2007 and 2009. each time an mp raised a question about this, the reply would come back from the post office that they thought the system was robust. they had no evidence to suggest there was anything wrong with horizon. subpostmasters think that ministers from all parties could have done more. every minister at some point has failed, uh, you know, in order to do their duty to the best of their ability. and they have a responsibility now to, you know, to come and answer the questio

alan bates's battle forjustice has been immortalised in the itv drama mr bates versus the post officeen like a dog, once he has got the bone, he wouldn't let go. and he hasn't let go either. thank you. go. and he hasn't let go either. thank you— go. and he hasn't let go either. thank ou. . thank you. the post office scandal is one of the _ thank you. the post office scandal is one of the biggest _ thank you. the post office scandal is one of the biggest miscarriages| is one of the biggest miscarriages ofjustice in the legal system's history and today was about honouring one of those impacted by it and his fight for justice. honouring one of those impacted by it and his fight forjustice. it might sound like science fiction but a robot is attending school in london and the reason is that he is helping his schoolboy namesake keep up helping his schoolboy namesake keep up with his education as he has treatment for cancer. net yellow when chemotherapy keeps 12—year—old howard at home, avery howard goes in his place allowing him to take part in lessons that he might have missed. , . . misse

alan bates from llandudno's battle forjustice has been immortalised in the itv drama mr.'s history. today was about honouring one of those impacted by it and his fight for justice. let mejust let me just update you on the ongoing investigation in bushey after the deaths of carol hunt, hannah and louise. kyle clifford, the suspect, is being detained over a crossbow attack. he is in hospital having been found with injuries on wednesday, and further searches have taken place at house in enfield in relation to the death of the three women. police officers in gloves and facemasks have been seen outside the property. there is a bbc live page on this news, and it points out there are many flowers at the scene we have seen, and many paying tribute after this terrible event. jockeys at kempton park are wearing black arm bands, and there is a minute's silence at newbury. this is all in a show of support forjohn hunt who is a racing commentator who works for the bbc. hertfordshire police say they are releasing updates on the investigation, and the security ministerjanjarvis told the

subpostmaster sir alan bates 15 years ago.y meet him at some point. >> well, joining us now is former postmaster and post office scandal victim christopher head. good to see you this morning, christopher. and how will you feel to see sir ed davey take to the stand today , ed davey take to the stand today, considering that the post office scandal has hugely affected your life . life. >> yeah. i mean, look, it's another important piece of the jigsaw. i mean, over the last few weeks, we know we've been heanng few weeks, we know we've been hearing from senior post office executives, from shareholder executives, from shareholder executives . and now we're executives. and now we're obviously on to the ministers involved. and, you know , we'll involved. and, you know, we'll hear from pat mcfadden first. and then, sir ed davey later. and then, sir ed davey later. and so we just want them to know exactly what was went, what what what they were told and what questions they asked , if questions they asked, if anything, you know, and, you

the compensation schemes are working more effectively, i think alan bates, in what he said to the presst place. final question. _ scandal in the first place. final question, how _ scandal in the first place. final question, how positive - scandal in the first place. final question, how positive are - scandal in the first place. final question, how positive are you about the state of your party, looking ahead, looking at the strength of the reform challenge in your seat, where they came third, how confident are you for the next five years and when the conservatives will be in five years' time? i when the conservatives will be in five years' time?— five years' time? i think it is very important _ five years' time? i think it is very important we _ five years' time? i think it is very important we recognise - five years' time? i think it is very important we recognise the - five years' time? i think it is very important we recognise the skill| five years' time? i think it is very i important we recognise the skill of the defeat of what we got wrong, but given that, i am very optimistic, an

no longer had that business will stop and there are problems which it was dealing with like the alan batesability. so you are saying very clearly how the shareholder of the post office, the government, had its way and took decided views over what the senior management was up to.— decided views over what the senior management was up to. thank you very much indeed — management was up to. thank you very much indeed for _ management was up to. thank you very much indeed for that. _ management was up to. thank you very much indeed for that. andy _ much indeed for that. andy verity there at the post office inquiry. we will continue with more on that story on the bbc website. we can cross now to airdrie. there is the snp leaderjohn swinney. he is talking to snp campaigners. he is on the campaign trail well and truly today. he was talking to our scotland reporter katie hunter a little bit earlier about the snp and about where they believe that they are in terms of the election, but also pushing forward the message of the snp that if you want to protect scott and's interests, and his own words, the

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amidst that epic legal battle between the post office and a sub—postmasters, that of course by sir alan batesf you are a board member, a chair or _ that decision. if you are a board member, a chair or chief - that decision. if you are a board - member, a chair or chief executive, to what— member, a chair or chief executive, to what extent are you entitled to assume _ to what extent are you entitled to assume that your advice is coming from _ assume that your advice is coming from people who are first of all qualified — from people who are first of all qualified and are secondly competent? did i feel that this advice — competent? did i feel that this advice would somehow be potentially tainted? _ advice would somehow be potentially tainted? i_ advice would somehow be potentially tainted? i don't think i did feel that tainted? idon't think i did feel that at— tainted? i don't think i did feel that at the time, if i'm honest. tim parker said — that at the time, if i'm honest. tim parker said that _ that at the time, if i'm honest. t “n parker said that advice came from the post office's top lawy