exponential growth of the surveillance state continue unabated to break it all down i'm joined now by alan butler appellate advocacy council for epic thanks so much for coming in so so what what does this all say explain a little bit about what was just uncovered well what we've learned is the extent of law enforcement requests given to cell phone companies for user data so subscriber data could be anything from the name or account information on your bill to the location of your cell phone as for making a call so i mean one point three million is such an enormous number. and it's not really stating what agencies federal local it's just kind of saying just a broad sweep of this number how can we be sure that these are really for legitimate purposes like they're claiming to be it's hard to know i mean a lot of the cell phone companies are making clear in their responses that you know they abide by the law they follow the rules that they're supposed to follow but a lot of these might be judgment calls in the case of you know subpoenas for information for what they call basic subscriber information