now they said, "you are related to alan dershowitz, how can you justify what he has been saying about" so it affects my relatives. that hurts me. i have a thick skin. i have been doing this for years. i have developed the thickest skin imaginable. by the way, a lot of the tweets that i get hundreds of tweets and messages, a lot of them not only focus on what i have been saying about the constitutional rights of donald trump, but they're related to me being pro-israel and jewish and making anti-semitic thing out of it as well. and so, you know, there is not only some -- too much antisemitism on the right,oo there is quite a bit on it on the anti-trump left as well. >> tucker: i have noticed that. you have been at this,ke i wouldn't want to guess, half a century. an awfully long time. forefront of the civil libertarian left. has that group shrunk? is it not just trump, but maybe the left iss less interested in traditional civil liberties than it used to be? >> shrunk? there are no civil libertarians left on the left. certainly not the american civil liberties union. they were the ones w

i noticed something when alan dershowitz was here.pendent but has been close to the president at times. it seems the white house strategy is all about discrediting robert mueller. >> the legal strategy has not changed. i mean, emmett is a quiet, careful lawyer doing the same work. >> inside the white house. >> inside the white house. what's changed is the media strategy. rudy giuliani's job is not to do substantive, in the weeds legal work. his job is to go on tv and attack robert mueller. attack the investigation. and what we're seeing is it's becoming a red and blue issue. similar to the clinton impeachment in the '90s. if that actually happens, we're seeing the the trend lines going in that direction, if that solidifies, that's fantastic for trump. and he knows that. >> half a dozen tweets by the president this morning. >> yes, george. but look. 17 indictments. five convictions. this investigation has proven more results than previous investigations over a similar period of time. you go back to whitewater. watergate. even the teapo

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now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. >> tucker: harvard professor of law alan dershowitz is onend certainly one of the most famous liberals in this country. increasingly he doesn't have much home left on the left because he refuses to participate in dog that the particular attacks on the president. dershowitz has sharp solid criticized the mueller investigation. he says justifying attacks on civil liberties that all of us. for saying that he says his liberal friends don't invite him to dinner parties anymore and some bark at him. professor dershowitz joins us tonight. professor, thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: you have taken unpopular, really unpopular positions, some that i disagree with over the years. and you haven't had this problem. >> no. >> tucker: what's the difference? >> well, it's trump. trump changes everything. >> just yesterday on martha's vineyard there was a dinner party. my wife and i was not invited. apparently i was the subject of the conversation. people asking what's happened to dershowitz? why has he turned to the right? and i wish i had been

i believe in the 1st amendment by alan dershowitz should be reprimanded. bab and forth as you were watching jill digitally on the twitter sphere. what was what really set you off about what alan dershowitz was saying and what do you think he is alluding to when he is being so critical of robert mueller? >> well, it's part of what i see as an attack on democracy by the entire white house. the attack on the fbi, the attack on the department of justice, the attack on robert mueller. i have seen absolutely not one shred of evidence that robert mueller has ever in his career done anything improper. he seems to be one of those people who there is nothing bad to say about. i don't know exactly what dershowitz was talking about in boston with these two people in jail. that -- i don't know, but i also do know richard painter. and i believe that he is a man of integrity and honesty. and when he says that's a lie, you can't say that, then i believe it. so then i heard him pivot. that is, i heard dershowitz pivot to, well, then let me attack your reputation. and that

my suggestion alan dershowitz said perhaps the f.b.i.king for something and they couldn't find it and kept looking and perhaps that's why they didn't pass on the word. does that logic fly with you possibly? >> absolutely does not. there is the gang of eight which there is an obligation for counter intelligence operations to be briefed. you have a president-elect in donald trump and as president again counter intelligence operations are briefed to the president. why did they not do that? it seems really mystifying. that's why until they actually get and see the documents people like john radcliffe and devin nunes and trey gowdy will never fully get that answer. we saw what they did to hillary clinton. they wound down a protocol on hillary clinton. donald trump they're pretty aggressive inserting fisa into this campaign. i don't think that final determination is there yet, bill. >> bill: would you sit for an interview now? trey gowdy suggests based on what he saw go ahead and talk to mueller. alan dershowitz do not do that. that is a bad a

. >> sean: joe digenova and alan dershowitz are exactly right.his is a perjury trap for the president of the united states. and even more frightening are the contents of this inquiry. note, all of the questions that include the term what did the president think? what did the president thinknk about james comey, what did the president think about jeff sessions' recusal? what does he think about the special counsel? well, i have a question for robert mueller, when did thinking or thoughts, ever become a crime? when did the united states start regulating what may or may not to be in a person's mind? are we now going to criminalize thoughts? this list of insane, juvenile ridiculous questions goes on including one about a statement to our friend maria bartiromo, the reaction to news reports. and what discussions trump had about terminating the special counsel. excuse me. he never terminated him! and again, more questions about the thought process. this is supposed to be originally was supposed to be about russia collusion, an investigation. not to som

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john dean, jeff zeleny,an milgram, alan dershowitz, carrie cordero.ke another break and we'll be back with more on tonight's breaking news. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. flonase. >>> big breaking story this hour tonight from the "new york times," special counsel robert mueller has at least four dozen questions he wants to ask the president, likely much more. "the times" got a list of them, open-ended questions about his tweets and his firings and the campaign and the russians ought to talk about. our political panel, jackie kucinich, paul begala and our legal panel joins us as well. paul begala, where do you begin with this? who gets the questions in advance, nobody. ken starr did not send notes over to president clinton saying -- >> why do you think they did in this case? >> i have no idea. they clearly want him. this is

alan dershowitz has gone repeatedly on television backing up the president. i suggest it's not a good day when alan dershowitz goes on tv and questions what's happening with rudy giuliani. take a listen. >> is this legal strategy that mr. giuliani is pursuing here, well thought out over the last few days? >> i don't think so. this was a very bad week for the trump team. the trump team has to speak with a single narrative, get their story clearly set out. it has to be put in wruten. it shouldn't be put on television shows off the cuff. >> bottom line question, jennifer. is the president in more legal trouble now potentially than before rudy giuliani started talking on his behalf? >> i think you're right, chris. he is in a bit more trouble. inconsistent statements and, listen, if prosecutors actually decide to bring this campaign finance violation as a case, they'll be looking underneath these comments and looking for what actually happened. who paid the money, how it was paid, who knew what, what the communications were, but keep these back and forth rudy comm

harvard law professor, alan dershowitz, thank you. rudy giuliani says it is still possible there will be some interview here. mueller wants an interview and trump's seem saying maybe for a few hours, limited scope. can you see a meeting point where there could still be an interview here? >> i can. i think we are seeing a little bit of pos taturing on both sid. "s" word is the show of strength by mueller, hiring a lawyer an expert in constitutional law. each side saying they won't compromise is often a prelude to a compromise. what the compromise may be is unclear. it would have to be limited in scope. president's not going to voluntarily agree to answer questions that he believes are beyond the scope of the investigation or that are within his constitutional authority not to answer. have to be limited in time. don't know whether mueller will buy it. in the end, mueller has the power to subpoena, president has the power to challenge that subpoena in court. >> hold that thought. we do have some more breaking news to quick will i get to.

i know alan dershowitz, giuliani said, he's no allen dershowitz.s attack comes hours after avenatti tweeted this warning, quote, let this serve as formal notice, there is significantly more evidence and facts to come relating to mr. cohen's dealings and mr. trump's knowledge and involvement. you can come clean now or wait to be outed, your choice, we have only just begun. some of that information may be coming to light. the "wall street journal" reports michael cohen made aboverture to provide consulting services to ford motor company in january of 2017 but was rebuffed. the "journal" reports special counsel robert mueller has taken an interest in cohen's approach, mr. mueller's team requested information from ford about the outreach including e-mails and records and interviewed ford's head of government affairs, ziad ojakli, people familiar with the matter said. and the daily beast is reporting at&t met with another group of the president's allies around the time it hired michael cohen. the company spoke with the washington lobbying firm avenue st

. >> sean: there is so many lawyers i respect, alan dershowitz, our own gregg jarrett. they said the president should never spend a minute. you said it would be narrow in focus and you said no more than two or three hours. do you believe robert mueller is setting a perjury trap for donald trump. >> i have to remain open-minded about this because even though you might not see a clear avenue to quickly resolving this, we know that our president will seek a resolution that gets a clear path to getting resolved. i would say right now the odds are he wouldn't but i don't close my mind to it. >> sean: when we are talking about -- this is really important. we're talking about the subpoen subpoena. in the subpoena means the present of the united states, the hillary standard -- the hillary standard is simple -- not under oath. wait a minute, you have a guy that hates hillary and loves donald trump during the interview, that would be the hillary standard. that's not going to happen with robert mueller. >> were not going to get that, could we accept something less than that, yes.

thank you. >> bill: back to alan dershowitz. of cable news and you are welcome to comment. this is what we do. when john roberts just said this is the art of the deal you sat their shaking your head. >> absolutely. this is playing into donald trump's strong suite. he knows how to make a deal. he knows how to walk away from the table and offer to come back to the table. i'm certainly not going to second guess our president when it comes to negotiating with north korea. i don't think he had any choice. once he heard what -- i think once he heard what the leader of north korea what he said about the vice president and our country. he walked away in a conditional sense. he said i welcome you to come back but on my terms. remember, we have most of the cards in this negotiation. and i think the president is playing them well. >> bill: the key line here, sadly based on the anger and hostility in your most recent statement i feel it's inappropriate at this time to have this long-planned meeting. what has happened with the president in t

there are so many lawyers that i respect, that you know and respect, alan dershowitz, joe digenova, heavyitters, gregg jarrett -- >> all my friends. >> sean: the president should never spend a minute --ai you sd it would be narrowly focused today and you said no more than two or threeee hours. do you believe robert mueller is setting a perjury trap for donald trump? >> i have to remain, and jay, and our team has to remain open-minded about this because even though you and i see a clear avenue to quickly resolving this for the macon people, we may, and we know that our president will seek a resolution that gives him a clear path to getting it resolved. so i would say right now, the odds are, he wouldn't be interviewed. i don't close my mind to it. >> sean:d i -- when we are talking about -- this is really important. we are talking about a subpoena. and the subpoena means that the president of the united states -- i alwayss said they should have the hillary standard, at the hillary standard is really simple. not under oath, -- wait a minute. you have a guy who hates hillary and loves donald

alan dershowitz said in no way shape or form should the president sit down. they would have another option. >> i would submit questions and answers in writing based on article 2 of the conversation. he said look, i've answered the question. why are they trying to bring me into a grand jury. this interferes with my right to govern and he would be in a better position politically and legally if he were to provide answers to the questions. >> so i asked rudy guliani this afternoon, the 49, 52 questions, do you believe those represent or look like a perjury trap? he said we all do. the questions almost cry out. they don't have a case. they're desperate. they want to make a case. look how few questions, if any, about russia. they've lost that one. now they're falling back to obstruction. so that really has the hinke up on the president's legal team, shep. they may agree to sit down. this is the best way to do it as opposed to getting a subpoena from robert mueller. but that force is still a long way from getting out of the barn. >> shepard: a new and aggressive pu

and i agree with alan dershowitz and you, sean, i think that really they are not trying to investigaterime, they are trying to manufacture a processed crime. >> sean: dan bongino, no good lawyer in the right mind knowing what we know, knowing the abusively biased team like wiseman and company that was appointed by mueller, would any present dent let him go before the man at all? and the threats of the president early in the process before they cooperated and never executive privilege, are you kidding me? >> do you see the danger in this? they are not investigating a crime here. they are investigating donald trump. there is a difference. i was a former federal agent, you investigate a crime and you find people. you do not find people and then go find the crime. i read the questions, and sean, these questions are very strategic. notice how they are left open-ended. now ron is a lawyer, he can tell you that's too. this is what you do when you interview people as a federal agent. open-ended questions. >> sean: no yes or no questions. >> exactly, bingo. >> sean: if there is one thing that d

i want to welcome alan dershowitz to the program with richard painter, the former chief ethics counselorge w. bush and is running for senate in minnesota as a democrat after being a life long republican. here's a taste of what rudy giuliani had to say to fox news. >> the money wasn't paid to help or hurt the campaign. imagine if that came out on october 16th, 2016 in the middle of the last debate with hillary clinton. it's not campaign money. no campaign finance violation. >> they funneled it through a law firm. >> funneled through a law firm and then the president repaid it. >> you're saying no campaign financial violation. as you've listened to him and learned more about that payment, what do you say to that question? >> well, it's a difficult question. senator john edwards was prosecuted because of hush money paid to a mistress. he was acquitted by the jury but there were problems with that trial because the woman was 100 years old at the time of the trial and was not really able to testify. so the position of the justice department is that there was at least that this type of thing

and then alan dershowitz saying this. he also had similar concerns c about a potential conflict.nk we have the full screen. he said the real question becomes whether it was proper to leave him, deripaska, out of the v9 indictment. and whether that omission was to avoid a kind of transparency that is really required by the law. >> i talked to four or five legal experts.la they all have the same assessment. f they all different viewpoints. you said we don't leave any men behind her think about how desperate the fbi had to be to go to a russian oligarch and say could you from this because the united states wouldn't fund it. the cia would not go back and get their own men to the level that the fbi thought it deserved so they go and reach out to thei sky and a half to fund an extracurricular activity to rescue one of our own men. i think that's one of the saddest parts of the tale that gets overlooked. >> laura: told me about hillary clinton's potential involvement? >> what we know is from the family, dave mckay, the lawyer said they had a deal, deripaska came back, they were sending

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i'm glad we had you on because i know that conversation with alan dershowitz raised interesting questions that i want to talk about now with ken dilanian. ken, looking at the topics here and what peter's mentioning here, the firing of comey, the flynn leaving, the accuse willal of sessions and so on tell us how this jives or doesn't jive with the reporting you've been doing and whether or not these questions to you really are soft balls like dershowitz is telling peter. >> they are absolutely soft balls, hallie. they are dwhaes aquestions that reporter or legal analyst who was following this closely could have written. . the reason for that is they were transmitted to donald trump's lawyers probably with the knowledge that they very well could be leaks. so there's almost no nonpublic information in here with one exception, that question about manafort potentially reaching out to the russians. that question aside, we don't know whether it was a garble or whether that's real evidence that mueller has. aside from that question, all these questions are based on things that are in the public d

alan dershowitz and jonathan turley had interesting comments.s first look at what jonathan turley said about all this. he's concerned about a potential conflict. he said if the operation with deripaska contravened federal law, this figure could be viewed as a potential embarrassment for mueller. the question is whether he could implicate -- it could implicate mueller in impropriety. and then alan dershowitz saying this. he also had similar concerns about a potential conflict. i think we have the full screen. he said the real question becomes whether it was proper to leave him. , deripaska, out of the v9 indictment. and whether that omission was to avoid a kind of transparency that is really required by the law. >> i talked to four or five legal experts. they all have the same assessment. they all different viewpoints. you said we don't leave any men behind her think about how desperate the fbi had to be to go to a russian oligarch and say could you from this because the united states wouldn't fund it. the cia would not go back and get their own

he joins us along with alan dershowitz.eff, is there anything illegal about what the president is asking the justice department to do? >> i don't think it's illegal, but i do think it's a violation of the norms that have been in effect for decades in terms of how the president deals with the fbi. we have a system in place where the president, though he is the head of the executive branch, allows the investigative functions of the fbi to function independently. this is especially true when the president is the subject of the investigation. it's entirely inappropriate for what the president is doing, but i think it's legal. >> professor dershowitz, there may not be anything illegal or unconstitutional about the president ordering this investigation. it does go against decades of how presidents have conducted themselves, would you agree? >> well, decades may be overstating it. it's certainly gone against some years. obviously early in our history, jefferson, lincoln, franklin delano roosevelt, john kennedy, all instructed the

alan dershowitz next with his advice. even get tired of winning. and you will say please, please, it's too much winning. abby: it is now time for news by the numbers. a big win for president trump. first, 68%, that is how many americans credit the commander-in-chief for our booming economy. the findings from a new cbs poll. next, 10%. thanks to that strong economy, that is how many google searches for vacations rose in the month of april. experts say it is a good sign, obviously, americans tend to be reluctant to take time off. and, finally, $45 million, that is the estimated cost of the royal wedding. money went towards security largely paid for by taxpayers. i wonder how they feel about that. steve: no kidding. meanwhile, there may be an end in sight. president trump's attorney rudy giuliani tells fox news that special counsel robert mueller told him two weeks ago that his russia investigation could end by september 1st if mr. mueller is able to interview the president probably around the 4th of july. brian: we have not

my guest, stormy daniel's attorney and alan dershowitz. the russian leader interfered with our election and the country remains more divided than it has been in decades. is putin's gamble paying off? i will ask the former u.s. ambassador to russia michael mcfaul. joining me are danielle pletka. robert costa, kimberly atkins and jon meacham. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. it was in the 1960s during lyndon johnson's presidency that the term credibility gap gained currency. the difference between what the administration told the public and what actually was true. the term seems particularly relevant again today. we have been told by his doctor that mr. trump would be the healthiest president ever. we were told he fired james comey because of the russia investigation. now we're told he was fired because he refused to say that mr. trump was not a target of the investigation. we had been to

alan dershowitz joins us live next. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else.m your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills only block one. flonase. >> sandra: former trump attorney john dowd confirming to fox news special counsel robert mueller warned he could subpoena the president forcing him to testify before a grand jury if trump refuses an interview with mueller's team. president trump tweeting there was no collusion. it was a hoax and there is no obstruction of justice. it is a setup and trap. alan dershowitz is the author of trumped up criminalization of politics and dangerous democracy. professor, we appreciate your time this morning. a huge story and a huge development in all this since fox news has been able to confirm that is a possibility and he has thrown that out there. will robert mueller try to force the president's hand? >> well, many, many months ago on fox i said that was going to happen. that's why mueller has the ul

i do agree with alan dershowitz that the trump camp is making a lot of mistakes lately.criminal investigations, before we would say anything publicly or talk to the press about any subject, we would have a very, very careful discussion, plant oexactly what we're going to say. it would appear that rudy giuliani is talking off the cuff. lots of leaks, and hear, you know, essentially he keeps changing the story as he goes along the. >> it may be resonating, though. t.s. ellis iii saying this on friday, saying, quote -- you don't really care about mr. manafort's bank frayed, according to cnbc, also saying you really care about what information he might have give you about mr. trump and what might lead you about his impeachment of at prosecution, unquote. white this particular district court judge have any effect? >> i'm surprised by that portion of the judge's comments. it felt to be an unnecessary politicization of the process there. of the mandate of bob muter. and i don't think that we should read too much into those comments. i think they played into the hands of donald

. >>> up next, a man who had the ear of the president, alan dershowitz. he joins us with his reaction to the breaking news. back a of a quick break as we continue to wait for the white house press briefing.-a we'll see if they are on schedule. should be about ten minutes from now. ng that's going on in the company. get it for jean who's always cold. for the sales team, it and the warehouse crew. give us the data we need. in one place, anywhere we need it. help us do our jobs better. with domo we can run this place together. well that's that's your job i guess. ♪ welcome to holiday inn! thank you! ♪ ♪ wait, i have something for you! every stay is a special stay at holiday inn. save up to 15% when you book early at hollidayinn.com ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ save up to 15% when you book early mr. elliot, what's your wiwifi?ssword? wifi's ordinary. basic. do i look basic? nope! which is why i have xfinity xfi. it's super fast and you can control every device in the house. [ child offscreen ] hey! let's basement. and thanks to these xfi p

sit down with mr miller well every lawyer in america particularly defense attorneys including alan dershowitz would say that is a terrible idea especially when you know that mr miller is trying to set perjury traps far far apart and separate and away from the original mission of the investigation which is did the russians meddle in our election and was there any collusion which by the way is not a legal term but was there any cooperation with the trump campaign so most legal experts would tell you that mr trump sitting down with mr moller is a very bad idea but getting back to the former secretary of state mr tillerson in his speech perhaps he was talking about the president hard to know he didn't say but he very well could have been talking about james comey or james clapper our former director of national intelligence or for that matter john brennan our former cia director who we are learning every day has not been telling the truth both under oath and to the american people when it comes to the russian vest a geisha in the steel dossier what role that played in opening that investigation a

>> well, at the same time, neil, you also again have people like alan dershowitz saying that rod rosensteins too involved in the process because he's the one who directed the president to fire james comey. so he should be recusing himself. so there is a whole worm hole of issues here that we'll be looking at as we move forward. neil: great insight on all of this. i don't know how you keep up with it. my mind numbs trying to follow it. thank you very, very much. >> thank you. neil: we're flat on the dow right now. we have a lot more coming up, after this. i can do more to lower my a1c. and i can do it with what's already within me. because my body can still make its own insulin. and once-weekly trulicity activates my body to release it. trulicity is not insulin. it comes in a once-weekly, truly easy-to-use pen. it works 24/7. trulicity is an injection to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. don't use it as the first medicine to treat diabetes or if you have type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take trulicity if you or your family hav

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that strong when they are looking at spending the rest of their time in prison they can do what alan dershowitzalked about, composing what the facts are. judge jeanine: can the president even be indicted? >> he cannot. under two separate opinions, one in 1973 after nixon written by a republican justice department and 2000 written by a democratic justice department. the president cannot be indicted. but also on policy ground. the opinions, the president is busy. you cannot take a criminal process or indictment. you cannot take a criminal process to the point where the president becomes untoday pass 8ed to run the presidency. if he cannot be indicted, judge, your honor, to what purpose does mueller want to untear gait, question the president. what will he do with it? judge jeanine: i remember this from bill clinton. he can be sued civilly but he cannot be indicted. we already went through this. >> they did do a grand jury. he testified in front of the grand jury where he lied. but that was under the independent council statute. judge jeanine: can the president be subpoenaed? >> not for these ques

. >>> joining me now, allison gappa, mildred zelman and alan dershowi dershowitz. >> we may be seeing attempts on both sides to flex some muscles. we're going to give you a subpoena. oh, yeah? we're going to do this that, and the other thing. it may still end up with a narrow four-hour or six-hour conversation twibetween the president and the special counsel -- >> you think they could do it in six hours? those 49 questions seem like days. >> that could be a negotiating position. if you're doing those questions, what's the possible benefit for the president to sit down? the only possible benefit the president gets by volunteering and giving up his rights is if he can narrow the questions, he can refuse to answer questions in certain areas, but if they're going to ask him about everything, might as well take it to the courts and fight. >> but isn't there a slight advantage also that if he's not in front of a grand jury, his lawyers can be present and involve themselves in this? >> right, so he'll have his counsel there, and he can still narrow the scope and refuse to answer certain ques

alan dershowitz said that about district court judge ellis, t.s. ellis, iii in fact.his is what he said it was an excellent week for th- there it is. it was an excellent week for the constitution and for all americans because a federal judge made it clear that no one, not even the special counsel is above the law and beyond scrutiny by our system of checks and balances. i happen to think that dershowitz has that exact by right. we have yet to see how judge ellis will rule but he certainly gave the justice department special counsel a real reason, one would think, to assess whether or not they have abused power and to what extent. >> well, lou, you and i, as rationale beings, if we got lectured by a judge like that, we would probably reassess our actions and make course corrections. i don't think that's going to go on in the mueller investigation. i think that they -- they know already that they're beyond their scope. they know already they're abusing power. and this is the type of corruption that has got to go -- this is wide spread in the federal judiciary where they

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alan dershowitz comes to mind. jonathan turley, georgetown law professor.here are a handful of people who stood tall in these moments and berated a legal profession and judiciary that is bringing almost as much -- you can argue the degrees -- but a commensurate amount of shame to themselves as the journalism community in this country. >> the long-term consciouses of that, it's enormously corrosive to the people's trust and the justice system. people don't believe in the fbi anymore. if you go into a court, even if there is disagreements in philosophy, you will get a fair shake by an even-tempered judiciously balanced person. people don't believe in that anymore. and the consequences for the country are grave. lou: if special counsel were going to mess with this president further in any way, i think there would be an uproar in this country that would bored on civil disobedience. i really do. the courts are a sham. the legal profession has disgraced itself. this is just different's stunning moment in history when there is such an absence of integrity in the c

overnight i spoke to harvard lawyer alan dershowitz. he describes these as deliberate softballs designed to lure the president into long and incriminating responses. he said if he were advising mr. trump and he's not, he would tell him to skip or take the list to court to try to narrow the scope of the investigation. >> peter alexander, thank you. let's turn to jeremy barb. good morning to you. >> hey, savannah. >> if you look at these questions, this does not look like a prosecutor's cross examination. they're very generic. alan dershowitz described them as softballs. >> they're over the plate. they're designed to get the president into the batter's box and start swinging at these. then in will come the prosecutor with the follow-ups, the information, other witness testimony, the records, the e-mails. to cross examine the present and test what did he know about the campaign's work with the russia federation. and what was the president's intent when he fired jim comey, was there guilty knowledge. >> and we have heard from the president

more now from our legal panel former white house ethics czar, and harvard university's alan dershowitztrumped up criminalization endangers democracy. professor dershowitz, nothing to support the president's theory that mueller is meddling in the upcoming elections, is it excusable for him to say that? >> no, i don't think so. i am opposed to it because i think special prosecutors have people with targets on their back and they have to find some criminal felt that. this is not about democrats or republicans, it's about over zealous prosecutors and targeting people. my complaint is very different from president trump's. let me tell you about unrecusal. i had a case where a prosecutor recuse himself because of a conflict of interest. two months later unrecuse himself because he realized maybe the conflict of interest shouldn't have prevented him from the case. not only that, presidents always want to appoint loyalists to the attorney general starting with obviously john kennedy appointing his brother, reagan appointing his personal lawyer, william smith. president obama pointing a loyalis

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about what he was thinking at what time when this happened and that happened and that's -- as alan dershowitz pointed out it's a very dangerous thing for anybody to go into. >> bill: what dershowitz said challenge the subpoena legally. you have a better success than sitting down with prosecutors. we're taking this to another step, charlie. in talking with people close to his legal team, they think they've got a real good shot of challenging the constitutionality, fighting a subpoena of a u.s. sitting president. do they? >> i really do think they have a very good argument. but politically speaking the other route is to go ahead and answer the all the questions in writing. make them public if you wanted. but to answer all those questions as fully as you can and then sit down and just refuse to answer questions and say on the grounds that you don't want to incriminate yourself by stepping into a perjury trap that you can't foresee. >> bill: that's interesting. that would be a play for public opinion more than a legal front. >> exactly. but you are absolutely allowed. anybody can plead the fifth

earlier i spoke to alan dershowitz that said that president trump is smart to avoid the interview. >> one of the reasons they want to haul him in front of the grand jury is to say if he will lie. this is a perjury trap. >> a lot of changes, pete. what do you expect is happening behind the doors of the white house right now? a lot of decisions are being made. >> i think the president is setting the tempo. he's not going to do something he doesn't feel comfortable with. i'm with professor dershowitz. it's a trap. it's a perjury trap that bob mueller seeks. he wants to get the president trumped up on words. you've seen the questions. they're not the same questions but the themes we know. it's michael flynn, jeff sessions, did the campaign have any conversations or approach russia. you get into an open session and it can go anywhere you want. they'll take any word and try to twist it. if bob mueller knows what to do, get a witness and talk to them. if he says yes, you have these questions. present evidence to trip him up. it was collusion and obstruction and now what is he thinking as pre