and if alan dershwitz wants to cut a tv ad, we know where we can go. the former director for media. former adviser to senator rand paul's campaign. you two are republicans. do you take all of your legal advice from in allan dershwitz? >> certainly not. he isn't on the inside. he hasn't seen all the evidence. so just blindly saying, i'll follow anything that -- certainly an esteemed lawyer says, baffles me. >> he is an esteemed lawyer. >> this is not necessarily a lawyer that i'll just -- >> he was on the o.j. dream team. >> we have evidence that suggests that he lied about a couple different things. but is this, do you think, just a little grand standing know peggy won't get anywhere with it? and i'm afraid to use this term yet, there, there. >> this is really topical right now. my husband in his 2011 book about general mcchrystal and his gang of operators who surrounded him, he reported that mike flynn said then in 2010 that he had lied to get his security clearance. so this is not anything new. this has been out there. actually everyone should watch the movie based on the book wil