to reach me and discuss this former us current for alan grayson and former colorado state center. ted harvey, who is also chairman for the committee to defeat the president. thanks for joining me gentlemen. good afternoon. thanks for having some alan, i've got to start with your congress and do you consider hillary clinton to actually be under consideration for future office? now it's going to be trump 1st by unless one of them falls thick between now and, and 3 years from now it's really locked in. unless that happens. now if a bite and does god forbid fall sick, then it's a different story. she'll be one of the people who might contend, but they'll be a lot of people who are contending at that point. and what you're seeing now is that there are a certain number of political operatives who are clinton easters, and want to get in the media. so they're saying things like this, but she has no chance of getting the nomination as long as joe biden wants it and is able to have it. on the other side, it's a very similar situation. but trump is that a tremendous disadvantage because 85000