>> and, it also occurs to me that i believe that this thursday, is the oral argument in the alan grossman case, and i don't know that we are going to know anything further after thursday, and as to the disposition of the matter and that will probably take up to 90 days and if there is anything, interesting that happens at the hearing it might be worth discussing briefly at next month's commission meeting. >> we should be so luck y >> i mean, seriously, there may be implications depending on how that goes, as to the sunshine ordinance and how business is transacted here in the city otherwise. and so, it is an important matter, i do take it seriously, thanks. >> and items for future meetings? >> i think that mr. chair, that mr. pilpal was reading my mind because i was going to interest at our next meeting for those of us who were not around in 2012, that we take up and get a report on the status of the, the case that is before the court of appeals, on for the oral argument and relating to our challenging, various, matters in the sunshine, san francisco sunshine ordinance. and if we could ha

>> and, it also occurs to me that i believe that this thursday, is the oral argument in the alan grossman case, and i don't know that we are going to know anything further after thursday, and as to the disposition of the matter and that will probably take up to 90 days and if there is anything, interesting tt