. >> we are talking to alan joyce and they launched their first ultra long-haul route earlier this yearrice? where you are in singapore, singapore airlines is relaunching, if you will, the new york route once again, that is nearly 19 hours long. >> exactly. it all comes down to fuel efficiency. if you go back for five years when airlines started that route, it was on a four engine so these new ones have much higher efficiency. it is low density. prices, youfuel could see it higher. supportuld be able to the long haul and the demand is certainly very strong. --i find it odd >> exactly. we are looking at load factors, which are pretty good. if you look at the upcoming -- it, they are going that should keep us in a good standing over the next few years. that certainly seems like the future. future, iting at the is the structure of aviation and global traffic on aircraft, -- we are moving more and more toward point-to-point. timeframe, i would say, has a good economy with the way we are in the cycle, it has become difficult. it in a booming economy, think there would be demands for these se