it's an interesting thing, alan krueger and i did a study on this, and over a decade probably half ofmericans would at some point use the tax credit. one thing about in the country is there are certain things that people may initially think are for other people, but did they find over time they can be very helpful to them and their families as well. so i think when you have over 100 million people getting protection of preexisting conditions, i think when you have people under 26 on their parents coverage, and when people are seen, the stories of people unexpectedly were diagnosed with cancer were able to get affordable treatment it wouldn't have been able to, i think simply saying we're going to repeal it is going to be less and less tenable. so that's my first response. in terms of the challenges of implementation, one of the things i think that everyone, if they are being fair, has to recognize is the simple victim, that hard things are hard. but very positive, great change can be hard but it doesn't mean it's not positive and good for our country. look at the status quo. is the st

they look and say, this was the first research done like this alan krueger and david carr did this, they new jersey raised the minimum wage and said wow it's on the border with pennsylvania so we can look and say did fast food restaurants in new jersey, right on the border where they raised wages, did they lose more jobs than in pennsylvania where wages stayed lower. and what they found was, not at all. there was no negative job impact and then -- >> you think the cbo got it wrong? they obviously -- you say you have great respect for them and the work they do. they obviously had access to the same studies that you're talking about. >> right. >> and others have talked about for some time. why do you think they got it wrong? >> i think that, you know, people are taught in economics 101 that if price goes up there must be a little less supply and i think their mistake was not looking at the practical research that was done because then economists looked at 500 counties where there was this, you know, one state raised the minimum wage and on the other side of the county they did not, and all