one of the things, alan krueger did this, i think it was new jersey raised the minimum wage rate, heersey and pennsylvania and studied the wage differential or the employment differential he did not find much impact from the higher minimum wage. there were a lot of studies out there, and we have another natural experiment going on right now. >> washington wages are -- i mean the hours worked are actually down a little bit >> they're down. >> because the wages have gone up >> thanks, steve thanks, steve. stick around >> stick around? >> stick around. >> oh, lindsay is there. >> joining us now, chief economist at stiffle fixed income did steve get anything right, lindsay, that you can tell >> actually, he made some very good points. i think at this point, it is very clear that businesses are still heavily reliant on part-time, temporary, low-wage labor. so that's continuing to pull down the wage growth in fact what we're seeing is that the vast majority of the modest wage growth that we are seeing is very segmented in the economy. these are particular areas that are looking for specifi