mckee, us now is michael alan krueger of princeton is still with us as is subadra rajappa. no disappointing to a small extent because the numbers lower than expected. given the hurricane impact we can't really see is that out, but if you look at the revisions, both months revised down, so job growth is slower than we thought. still above the level in which we need to provide the jobs to people entering the labor force, so the feds will be fine with this, but wall street is going to be concerned. average hourly earnings not bad, but we are not seeing a big change on an ungrounded basis. -- it's notn by of exactly what you want to see when the economy is this strong, but hard to tease out the impact of the hurricane. aggregatek at annual hours, you may see a hurricane effect. spread is210 obviously moving flatter and s&p futures have just jumped a little higher, taking the wind out of the bond, there are some details moving lower with buying coming in. there was a lot priced in coming into this. two questions, is this disappointing? and is this a time where bad news is good n