and with us is alan leveritt, publisher of the arkansas times. plain why it is you decided to try to overturn this law that was passed in arkansas. >> for us, it is basically a free speech issue. the state of arkansas is requiring us to take a political position in return for advertising. we are taxpayers here in arkansas. we have as much right is anyone else to do business, to earn that on our marriage and we're being told, no, have to to take a political position. you have to pass a political litmus test in order to do business. when we refused to sign and the state started shutting down power advertising, our state advertising, we sued. we not boycotting anyone. for us, it is purely a first amendment issue. amy: explain how you saw this clause. you are a free newspaper. you rely on advertising for your income. involves a lot of state on you. talk about what happened. you've been getting money for years. >> i started "the arkansas times" 48 years ago. we have always done businesses with the colleges, the health department, the hospitals. -- afte