joe: alan patricof helped grow such companies as apple, aol, and office depot. he cofounder of greycroft partners and joint us now. alix: thank you for joining us. what a pleasure. alan: nice to be here. alix: when you see oil volatility and china falling off a cliff and massive volatility in the markets, what do you think? alan: i think it's amazing the venture capital community has blinders on and be start up -- the startup community has blinders on. whatee them and you think, does it have to do with me? i have been saying this for years -- it's hard to reconcile the fact they seem to be in two different trajectories. if you are raising money on a private transaction startup right now, and i said to them, you realize the stock market's down a thousand points right now, they would say, so what? to get themard conceiving of that. as a result, when the market is down, it seems that my experience is private prices hold up. they just don't want to go down. by the same token, when the market goes up and runs wild, the venture market follows it. it does not go along w