and alan ripka, attorney out of new york, as well. susan moss, weigh in. >> oh, say it ain't so, joe. i can't believe he is throwing his wife under the bus. because you know what that's going to mean? more power to debbie rowe to try to get these kids. and debbie rowe is amazing. let me get this straight. she breeds horses for a living. but now she allegedly sells her children to make her cash? what is this? backwards day? he is doing the worst possible thing for the jackson family by speaking up like this. >> renee rockwell? >> somebody needs to put a dot on that, which you said, susan moss. doesn't need to say anything. he doesn't need to be pointing the finger at his wife. because it's going to get more and more complicated if he makes katherine look like a person that should not be the guardian. >> let's go to the caller's question. let's address lucy in new york's question. alan ripka, with statements like the one joe jackson made to abc's "primetime," essentially admitting that there were beatings, but blaming them on katherine

alan ripka? >> it does not mean you have the ability to kill someone and cut a fetus out of the body, and it is very very unfair for people to make that assumption under these circumstances. >> susan moss, you disagree with that? >> oh, i think that the more the investigation is going to happen, the more facts will come to light, and i think that they will solve it quickly, because i am guessing they are watching the everybody who they think is a person of interest right now. >> john dipietro, he was not the suspect, but the ex-boyfriend is getting married today or tomorrow -- is that true? >> that is the word, pat, that a marriage license was taken out. but the real other tragedy here is that this poor woman really had the mind supposedly of a 12 or 13-year-old. she had three children. she could only take care of one. the landlord said even that was a struggle because of diapers left all over. it sounds as if everyone stood by as this poor woman was taken advantage of and obviously sexually and

and alan ripka, people want to jump on the ex-boyfriend. but in fairness to him, to me, the guy looks visibly upset. i know you can't make a decision on guilt or innocence based on just that. but in all likelihood, i realize when people jump on him, but it isn't fair. alan ripka -- >> does not mean that you have the ability to kill someone and rip a fetus out of their body and it's unfair to make an assumption on those circumstances. >> susan mott, do you adisagree with that? >> i think the more the investigation is going to happen, the more facts are going to come to light. i think they're going toll solve it quickly. i'm guessing they're watching the suspect right -- watching everybody they think is a person of interest right now. >> john dipitro, the suspect -- not the suspect, the ex-boyfriend is going to get married today or tomorrow? is that true? >> the marriage license was taken out. but the real other tragedy here is that this poor woman had the mind supposedly of a 12 or 13-year-old. she had three children. she could only take car