alan rusbridger definitely will definitely uses the term claiming to represent the views of the prime minister that is david cameron that means the order must have come from david cameron the americans were quick to say that no they had made no formal request if anything they were tipped off about david miranda who was of course held for nine hours at heathrow airport over the past forty eight hours so is this a case of british secret service sucking up to their american counterparts the real question now fools to the prime minister and i suppose they should be and presumably will be cool's to some kind of inquiry how can this be how can this happen again how can free press exist in this country anymore if the security services can break in or seemingly be let in by an editor to destroy evidence or out of steam thank you so much for your analysis there is contributor reporting live from london to other stories now here in r.t. massive floods are still sweeping across russia's far east the region's main city does its utmost to defend itself from the advancing waters as we continue to b

according to the editor of the guardian newspaper alan rusbridger he had written. it would happen over a period of two months that he was approached by officials that claimed to represent the views of the prime minister and had demanded the surrender or the destruction of all the information that they had on the documents and data that edward snowden had given to the guardian so in those subsequent meetings that he had with those so-called security experts or officials rusbridger had said that he was exploiting the job of the god and that they needed that information to continue doing their jobs and to which these officials apparently had told him quote do you have your fun and now we want the stuff back and you've had your debate there's don't need to write anymore and that is how those two security experts had ended up in the basement of the guardian offices right behind me overseeing the destruction of some of the computers and hard drives in the office now this so was written by the editor just a day after david miranda the partner of glenn greenwald of the gua

well the editor of the guardian alan rusbridger have written about the process the time it took to get to that point actually and he had been contacted he said about two months ago by by government officials demanding the surrender or destruction of all materials in their possession relating to surveillance of the surveillance operations and covered by edward snowden and then he said that a month later he was again contacted from what he calls quote unquote at the center of government in which he was told quote you have your fun now we want the stuff back and he had written that there were subsequent meetings with certain officials certain government officials and in those meetings when he tried to explain that the guardian would not be able to continue doing their jobs without this trove of data they told him quote you have your debate there's no need to write any more and quote we know the debate that this has brought up really is security versus privacy and the extent to which governments should be allowed to was spied on their own citizens or others now of this is he said also rusb

making sure that there were not any pieces that could be handed on to chinese agents so this alan rusbridger the editor of the guardian described as a very surreal or bizarre encounter and despite all of these events what some are calling as intimidation from the government or is that it is disproportionate at the guardian insists and it says that it will continue to report on the documents and the data that edward snowden had handed over to them and it's just incredible all of this comes just a day after the partner david miranda of a guardian journalist the guardian journalist working on snowden's materials is detained by authorities for nine hours. yeah that's right he was held at the heathrow airport where he was questioned but he says six different agents of david miranda explained that he was held for a very long time and he had talked about his experience and during that detention they were threatening me all the time in saying i would be prudent jail if i didn't cooperate they treated me like i was a criminal or someone about to attack the u.k. it was exhausting and frustrating i kne

still does as you just said in your introduction it does get more and more bizarre because as alan rusbridger had also said in his blog this act of destruction this physical destruction is the hardest it seems like nothing but a pointless piece of symbolism which is his words. because as you say there are copies of it available elsewhere and we know from since when this. matter snowden controversy broke we know that journalists no longer. exchange data electronically you know so now the other thing that's going to happen is journalists are going to avoid coming into london to carry out their work or the other explanation could be that it's the security of our security just don't have any idea how how how how data can be transferred electronically how these things work both of those things are pretty serious concerns for a third point possibly was the intention to intimidate that's i mean it seems very much like that doesn't it given that you knew practicality knew there was no practical reason to do it it is just it almost looks like the government acting as a but effects of its muscle and i

the heathrow airport and question using britain's tera law now the added her of the guardian alan rusbridger says that the british government intimidated him in several meetings over the edward snowden saga and then gave him an ultimatum either destroy all of the materials on the matter or shut down their publishing operations rusbridger explaining why they decided to destroy the computer hard drives containing some of the secret files but also explained to the u.k. officials we were dealing with that there were other companies is. already in america and brazil so they wouldn't be achieving anything but it was obvious that they would be going to law. i would rather destroy the copy than hand it back to them or allow the courts to freeze our reporting so what should we make of this joining me now is josh levy he's the internet campaign director at the press and josh thank you so much for joining me that's my question to you what should we make of these revelations about the guardian's hard drives getting destroyed we should be very very worried about. you know this is an escalation. between p

lives it does as you just said in your introduction it does get more and more bizarre because as alan rusbridger had also said in his blog this act of destruction this physical destruction of the hardest seems like nothing but a point his piece of symbolism which is his words are just word for it because as you say there are copies of it available elsewhere and we know from since when the . matter snowden controversy broke we know that journalists no longer. exchange data electronically you know so now the other thing that's going to happen is journalists are going to avoid coming into london to carry out their work or the other explanation could be that the security is our security pass and just don't have any idea how it. how data can be transferred electronically how these things work both of those things are pretty serious concerns so another thing that the guardian those who said that was the newspaper was threatened with legal action if it didn't surrender these files something they're calling prior restraint so shutting down reporting through the courts i mean is there any precedent for t

all of this was written by the editor of the guardian alan rusbridger it seemed to have happened over a period of a couple of months rusbridger was contacted by what he wrote as officials who claim to represent the views of the prime minister to demand that the information be surrendered or destroyed now he said that over that period they had been meeting consistently with officials as well as the g.c. issue the intelligence agency here in the u.k. and in trying to explain the guardian's position apparently these officials had told him well quote you've had your fun and now we want the stuff back and you had your debate there's no need to write anymore and quote we know that the debate this whole story has stirred centers around the thin line between security and privacy as well as freedom of the press many critics are looking at this as an intimidation or bullying coming from the government now the guardian editor also wrote that he had explained that if the british government continues to block with the guardian is trying to do here in writing about those the information uncovered b

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