alan rusbridger, welcome to hardtalk.re is a sense hanging over your recent writings that you sort of feel you got out of the news business just before it went into meltdown. would that be fair? it's a tough period economically for news. the model that almost accidentally attached advertising to news, which you could say lasted for 200 years, is melting fast and there's tremendous competition from the digital giants of the west coast. 0n the other hand, i think journalism has never been more important. there is a great battle going on at the moment for truth versus fakery and falsity and rubbish, and i think it's an exhilarating time to be a journalist and to try and work out how you remake journalism. it is an interesting phrase that, "journalism has never been more important". but i wonder, in all honesty, do you feel that traditional news organisations such as the one that you lead for 20 years, the guardian in the uk, would you argue that it and others like it have never been more important or is the scenery shifting?

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former guardian editor alan rusbridger published the wikileaks revelations and the edward snowden leaksrs now". lots of focus on the new york times, what is it like when you're sitting in the seat and you have to decide whether to run a story like that? in the seat and you have to decide whether to run a story like that7m is very lonely and i can imagine the angst that has gone through the mind of editor. it is a big risk. the risk is it rebounds against the new york times and people don't believe it and it plays into the trump narrative that it is the elite conspiracy of people who don't like me. by! conspiracy of people who don't like me. by i think the content of the content was so extraordinary i can see why they behaved in that way. you say in your book, it is trump's disregard for the truth that reminds people why we need newspapers. but you say social media has created the biggest capability for spreading lies. why is is a force for bad. biggest capability for spreading lies. why is is a force for badm is everything. it is a force for bad and good and it is terrifying you have a