bowles simpson, also recommended by e gang of six. >> it's incredible. here you have alan simpson ander skin bowles, you couldn't have two finer people. intelligent, good humored, opposite sides of the isle. they get together and get tom coburn and dick dur fwin sign on to something. >> a liberal democrat and a republican fm oklahoma. >> yeah,hey were putting the country ahead of their personal feelings and they worked for months and months and months and they criticized and i'm sure the hours they spent arguing over given things that they had to compromise on. they get 11 out of 18 to agree and it gets tossed aside. i thk it was a terrible mistake. simpson-bowles should gain momentum. when you get peopleho work like crazy, many months, person reputations at stake and everything else and you get coburn and durbin, that's... i give credit to both of them, equal credit. i think... i may not agree with tom coburn but think he's a statesman. >> rose: he was prepared to take reductions in... >> absolutely. absolutely. >> rose: in corporate income tax. there is also this. the president's leadershi