and that's not to ridicule alan sugar.y, think that's the case for many, many people the house of lords. >> well, michelle mone is another name that is very much on people's the moment. on people's lips at the moment. >> sugar is a great example >> alan sugar is a great example because he had the right honour. first sir alan same first time sir alan fine, same as sir martin. some people first time sir alan fine, same as sir i martin. some people first time sir alan fine, same as sir i don't n. some people first time sir alan fine, same as sir i don't like)me people first time sir alan fine, same as sir i don't like him people first time sir alan fine, same as sir i don't like him s0)ple may say i don't like him so what, you've a gong? yeah, what, you've got a gong? yeah, but have vote in the but he didn't have a vote in the house of lords. that's the issue. >> t- @ exactly. i mean, but >> yeah, exactly. i mean, but going to the honours going back to the honours system, the new year's honours system, the new year's honours