of all the people in the president's former orbit, how important could alan weisselberg be?ortant for the president's business and deals he's done and where everything is and a person that's loyal to the family, that he has worked not just for donald trump but also for donald trump's father fred. prosecutors have not alleged any wrongdoing by weisselberg but they are narrowing in on him and what he did and things related to his two sons, one of whom helps manage one of the trump properties that the city owns in new york, one of whom worked or works for one of trump's former lenders and they have not, again, alleged there is any wrongdoing there but they have asked questions and it does suggest that they are narrowing in on alan weisselberg if they can find evidence of wrongdoing by him, they would pressure to cooperate. if alan weisselberg were to cooperate, big if, nobody is accusing him or anything, if anything were to change, that would be a serious problem for president trump because alan weisselberg again is so read in on so many aspects of his life and his business. >>

. >> can you speak about trump's family and alan weisselberg? ter today. >> did you think weisselberg will cooperate? >> if he's smart he would. >> will the tax records and financial statements the d.a. receives need to be released? >> that sounds to me like the holy grail. >> an audio tape surfaced of the former president talking to the georgia secretary of state's office. different from the one he had with the secretary himself which you probably heard. a lot going on, john dean, you tweeted about personal experience you don't visit seven times if you're not planning to indict. how can you be so confident of that? the fact that they brought him in for a seventh time, couldn't you also read into it that they are sort of just fishing? >> well, not likely at this stage. what they're doing can be a couple things. one is the prosecutors are trying to get familiar with the witness more likely in this instance because of the treasure trove of information they obtained evidence from is to get guidance and insight into what some of those documents mean,

they've seemed to have a lot of attention on in particular the family of alan weisselberg, the chiefn. seem to be trying to push him to flip on trump, putting pressure on him and his family. he's got two sons who also have worked in ways to help trump. one for a banking company, latter capital, that's made huge loans to the trump organization, and the other son manages the wolman ice skating rink in new york and the carousel. the trump organization has a contract with new york city to run. it's like the family business, they're enmeshed in this thing and prosecutors seem to be closing in on them. they've got the records now to pour over trump's taxes and more importantly all the notes from the accountants that show how trump and the organization arrived at the numbers. >> weisselberg is a key figure, everyone who has covered trump says he's the one who knows the business, numbers and inputs and outputs better than anyone. and his daughter-in-law is the source of that incredible anecdote that appears in your story about sitting shiva, and seems like prosecutors have zeroed in on him.

but for alan, it's a love affair. weisselberg'sd a hallway with trump's. jennifer recalled, you walked down the hall, it's allen, donald, allen, donald. they don't do anything separately. allen would know everything. andrew weissmann, does someone who knows everything, who has a love affair, do they take that next step and go to jail to keep all that secret usually, in your experience? >> well, first, it is correct that the chief financial officer is certainly the place to look. it is right to think that he -- if there are financial wrongdoing at the trump organization, he's going to know about it. and in terms of flipping him, you know, you have to sort of say, look, he might really be grateful to donald trump, but you have to remember, he might go to jail, and with the testimony of his -- with the leads of his former daughter-in-law, that article is also about whether the manhattan district attorney's office is going to be able to make a criminal case on his children, that is, on weisselberg's children, not trump's. so, that's a

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and this evidence that's coming out today that's being subpoenaed by the prosecutors involves alan weisselberg chief financial officer, a guy loyal to trump for decades but loyalty always has some price and looks like he is being squeezed now to give financial information and he is not just -- the prosecutors aren't just squeezing him but going after his children, his daughter who got a free apartment for trump, his son involved in some loans with trump and the like. and, you know, it's unclear, we don't know what this evidence is but weisselberg at the center of trump's financial dealings for decades and given the way he was and that evidence is now being given to the prosecutors and before recent times trump had fought all of this and said to the supreme court don't allow my tax returns to be seen, the financial information to be seen as well as the trump organizations and lost that in the supreme court. and trump might have been better off letting vance have the -- the prosecutors have the tax returns when he was president because then he could get a licensed lawyer to defend him. not clear

would find out what all of those hundreds of llcs that the trump organization established under alan weisselberg'sy for tax collectors and another way for insurers and banks. allen weisselberg -- you know, al capone ultimately went down because they got his accountant, and the accountant is the one who showed federal investigators how capone's organization was cooking its books. this is about the most vulnerable person you could put in the crosshairs around donald trump. allen weisselberg is the same age as donald. he was fred trump's accountant. he came into the trump organization in the '70s. he graduated to becoming donald's cfo. but there was no deal that went through the trump organization of significance that allen weisselberg didn't look at. there was no financing arrangement that he didn't give his blessing to. and what you're seeing now is a classic prosecutorial strategy to the extent that they're doing more than merely looking at allen weisselberg and they're pondering prosecuting allen weisselberg, that means allen weisselberg might flip, and if allen weisselberg flips, you're going to

weisselberg. if there was wrongdoing, alan would know about it. that's why he is such a valuable target for the manhattan d.a. >> let's talk about mark pomeranz. in this report you write people familiar with pomeranz's inquiry you say it has taken on new urgency since the hiring of pomeranz who represented john gotti's son in the 1990s on special assignment. what does the addition of pomeranz do to this case? >> well, people we've talked to who have seen the latest enter sue videos say pomeranz is leading them, asking questions, playing the role of synthesizer. asks questions, sits backs, thinks and says i think you are saying x, is that true. he seems to be building it towards one conclusion. as you said his experience is in really complicated mob cases. he's used to looking at books, at complicated financial records and telling what's wrong with them, if there is, and turning that into a coherrin story you can stella jury. he is also good at finding people who will flip, informants, people who will save themselves from legal exposure by turning