professor alan woodward from the surrey centre for cyber securityjoins me.ant attack. yes, although i have to say, i don't think the 9 million other bits to worry about in some ways. people cosmic e—mails can be used for armoured scamming, fishing attacks, things like that, but the bit that is interesting in this attack are the 2,000 odd credit cards because what we saw today in the announcement to the stock exchange was they simply said 2,000 credit ca rd was they simply said 2,000 credit card details have been stolen, but thatis card details have been stolen, but that is all they said. there is evidence if you look online, people have been posting e—mails from easyj et have been posting e—mails from easyjet back in april where they were alerted to the fact that credit ca rd were alerted to the fact that credit card details, including the number on the back, had also been stolen. if that is true, then there is probably only one where they could have happened, which is the so—called magic art attacks, which is where the hackers managed to get a little bit of

one of those experts is online now, professor alan woodward.different ways of tracking people's location. do you think any of them are accurate enough? the short answer is no. none of them are, because in the real world, in a perfect world, if you are in the laboratory you might get something like the accuracy you need. but in the real world, none of them are going to be accurate enough, particular indoors, but really bluetooth is the only option you have. but that is why you can't rely solely on the distance data, and why the better apps are going to model in time as well. so for example, suppose you come within two metres of someone, passing them on a bike on a road, but actually you only get one ping from the bluetooth beacon that's sent out. it's not necessarily a risk, or it is a much lower risk than if you are cycling together for an hour. do you think there is a danger that we are putting too much emphasis on the technology and the contact tracing apps? you can't just rely on the technology on its own to automate everything. they will ha

professor alan woodward is a cyber security expert at the university of surrey.tuation, aren‘t there? to exploit the current situation, aren't there? there are two parts, one of them i suppose is coronavirus is the focus of everyone but the criminals obviously potentially see there are some valuable intellectual property, a person who comes up with a vaccine, hopefully it will be made freely available around the world but who knows what could be worth what in the future said they might be looking at that but also criminals know that some of these institutions are under enormous pressure so if they were to hit them with some sort of attack to make contact with a ransom, they may be more willing to pay up. perhaps another worrying element are nations trying to use and in some way trying to exploit the current circumstances? yes, the unfortunate thing is, the world is on lockdown so in terms of espionage will be... nations are trying to find out and i suppose in some way you would expect any nation to be using their intelligence gathering capabilities to see if ther

professor alan woodward from the surrey centre for cyber security explained how the attack could havee the 2000 credit cards. the stock exchange said that 2000 credit card details had been stolen. but if you look on social media people have been posting e—mails from easyjet backin been posting e—mails from easyjet back in april, where they were alerted to the fact that the credit ca rd alerted to the fact that the credit card details included the number on the back, which had also been stolen. if that is true, there is probably only one way that that could have happened, which is the same thing that british airways suffered from and a number of other people have suffered from, which is where the hackers got a bit of the script, the code, onto the payments page. you do not normally store that numberand page. you do not normally store that number and that is the only place where they could have got it from. we were told they were first made aware of this injanuary, so what have they been doing since? good question. we don't know is the honest answer. 0ne presumes they have involved the