well now let's take a closer look at what we do know about albert darby the leader of the so-called islamic state. the leader of i ask is or was notoriously reclusive and elusive this is the man believed to be. the even that isn't certain. the mujahedeen have been rewarded victory by god after years of jihad they were able to achieve their aim and hurried to announce the caliph and choose the image. that they were. in 2014 i asked seized control of large parts of iraq and syria and declared the territory a caliphate a u.s. led international coalition for back and re took the territory over the course of about 2 years. but daddy was on the run and the us posted a $25000000.00 reward for information on his whereabouts in march this year the u.s. declared victory over i asked primitive only say many observers this year baghdadi reemerged releasing messages calling on i asked fighters to regroup now that he's believed to be dead the question is how the jihadi movement itself will endure without baghdadi. and with me in the studio now is the w.'s anya shot for not who is going to talk about the

is the 2nd and the 3rd on the force albert darby. there's enough cities and villages in iraq for. our ramadi and there's enough cities and villages in iraq for every terrorist so the terrorist king is dead long live the kerry terrorist so the terrorist king is dead long live the king you know the problem all along western vying you know the problem all along is western violence militarized violence in a militarized approach to counter terrorism and it's militarized violence in a militarized approach to counter terrorism. you know creates its own enemies it's a self-fulfilling ism. you know creates its own enemies it's a self-fulfilling policy and these groups keep proliferating you know a year policy and these groups keep proliferating you know a year from now you know we may be talking about some new group you know who's name a firm now you know we may be talking about some new group you know whose name we don't even know today well i mean at the timing is is kind of interim we don't even know today well i mean it the timing is kind

the force albert darby. there's enough cities and villages in iraq for every terrorist. there's enough cities and villages in iraq for every terrorist so the terrorist king is dead long live the king you know the soul the terrorist king is dead long live the king you know the problem all along is the western violence millet problem all along is the western violence militarized violence and a militarized approach to counter terrorism. violence and a militarized approach to counter terrorism. you know creates its own enemies it's a self-fulfilling policy and you know creates its own enemies it's a self-fulfilling policy and these groups. prepare for her 8. year fire and now. you know we may be told no we may going about it that silt on new group about some new group you know whose name we don't even noted you know whose name we don't even know today well i mean it the timing is is kind of interesting because well i mean it the timing is kind of interesting because this is right after trump certainly took a p.r. hit this is right after trump certainly took a. p.r. hit over

at the end of our 4 salute you albert darby. there's enough cities and villages in iraq for every terrorist. there's enough cities and villages in iraq for every terrorist. to terrorise tourist getting is dead. long long live the king king. you know the problem problem all along the. west that are western. oil and. millet militarized her islands and its military. and account militarily or is a term. to counter terrorism. you know. it's you know it's an arrow in america and it's it means to sell the bling part of the policy that the saudi and these groups they keep proliferate. year after year from now. you know we may be talking about some new group you know we may made between or even voted new group you know whose name we don't even know today well i mean that it's well. i mean it. is interesting because as. this is right after trump certainly took a p.r. hit this is right after trump certainly took a p.r. hit over you know. the chaotic. over. the chaotic withdrawal of u.s. forces from northeast syria so you know withdrawal of