. >> that being said, albert gonzales had $1 million buried in his backyard. >> right.we are focused on the infrastructure that the criminals are leveraging. over time, and you will see it as we go through the panel, the evolution of the cyber criminal, those that were committing the crimes that were affecting us 10 years ago are now the ones that are commercializing and industrializing. the innovation of malware, bulletproofing, other types of infrastructure. making it easier for most who would not have a programming background. that is going to continue to provide anonymity. does, thehat his team recent arrests he has prosecuted on, i do not think the public understand how difficult it is to merge the online identity with the real world identity. that is a very daunting task that becomes quite cumbersome. the effort that goes through his office and those investigations, they do a good job being able to merge that. ae results of that give us bigger, broader picture that we will paint for you today. >> the second question might shed a little bit of light on this. notifi

. >> that being said, albert gonzales had $1 million buried in his backyard. what we're focused on here is infrastructure that the criminals are leveraging. over time, you will see as we go through the panel today, the evolution of the cyber criminal and the infrastructure that supports him has evolved. those that were committing the crimes that were impacting us 10 or 15 years ago are now the ones that are commercializing and industrializing the underground. the commoditization of malware, leveraging, bulletproof hosting and other types of infrastructure for making it much easier for most that wouldn't have programming background or computer science background to engage in cyber criminal activity. that is going to provide the anonymity. with zach and what his team does, i don't think the public truly understands how difficult it is to merge the online identity with the real- world identity. that is a very daunting task and it becomes quite cumbersome. the efforts that law enforcement around the world and secret service and those investigations do a really goo