albert gonzalez the albert gonzalez case is a number of reasons and andy actually worked on it. high school, i think -- no. but -- but it was -- it was an mazing case that resulted in the longest sentence in cyberhistory, albert gonzalez is 20 years right now. for one- he was amazing albert gonzalez was caught initially. he flipped. cooperating at a high level. at the same time he was cooperating at a high level on hacking at , he was extremely high level on the other hand, simultaneously. and he's quite a character. it was caught again. arrest really case, on this heartland which -- which is the -- it was results as of july of this year. and i think andy can probably exactly howtails on the case went down. next question, we have had this from home. credit card, you get a nice letter notifying there's been a data breach and your credit eck record, inform your bank, change your pass words. any of the steps we did in the they do anything? we didn't check credit reports. the finances seemed normal. on, seemed like nothing happened. advice constructive? >> i think the answer is yes.

albert gonzalez is serving 20 years right now. it was amazing for one reason that robert gonzalez was caught initially. he flipped and began cooperating at a very high level and at the same time that he was cooperating at a high-level on the one hand he was hacking at an extremely high level on the other hand simultaneously. he is quite a character. he was caught again and his arrest really spurred on this heartland case which was still producing results as of july of this year. andy can probably give more details on exactly how the case went down. >> this next question is something we've gotten familiar with in my home. if you have a credit card long enough you will get a nice letter notifying you that there has been a data breach and you should check your credit report, inform your bank, change your passwords. i think i got two of those a few years back. do any of the steps that are recommended in those letters, do they actually do anything? i have to say i don't know that we actually did any extra checking of credit reports. ou

it was amazing for one reason that albert gonzalez was caught. initially, he flipped. he began cooperating at a very high level. at the same time that he was cooperating at a high level, he was hacking at an extremely high level. simultaneously. he is quite a character. he was caught again and his arrest really spurred on this heartland case which is still producing results as of july of this year. and the -- andy can probably give more details on how the case went down. >> business question is having a we are dealing with in my home. if you have a credit card long enough, you will get that letter notifying you that there is then a breach and you should check your credit report and change your passwords. i got two of those a few years back. do any of the steps that are recommended in those letters do anything? i have to say, i do not know that we actually did any tracking of her -- extra checking of our credit report. our finances seem normal and it seemed like nothing happened. is that advice actually constructive? >> personally i think the answer is yes. anything tha

. >> that being said, albert gonzalez had a million dollars buried in his backyard.what we're focused on here is infrastructure that the criminals are leveraging. over time, you will see as we go through the panel today, the evolution of the cyber criminal and the infrastructure that supports him has evolved. those that were committing the crimes that were impacting us 10 or 15 years ago are now the ones that are commercializing and industrializing the underground. the commoditization of malware, leveraging, bulletproof hosting and other types of infrastructure for making it much easier for most that wouldn't have programming background or computer science background to engage in cyber criminal activity. that is going to provide the anonymity. with zach and what his team does, i don't think the public truly understands how difficult it is to merge the online identity with the real- world identity. that is a very daunting task and it becomes quite cumbersome. the efforts that law enforcement around the world and secret service and those investigations do a really good

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