albert said, peel the onion back. >> julian, before we go, tell us quickly what we'll see in the court hearing tomorrow about the protections for bridget kellytepien are going to go in and make a case that the documents where they may have written incriminating things about themselves have a privileged the fifth amendment. as we discussed on this show there is no fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination with regards to things you write in documents. there are some exceptions. here you have a difficult case. and you've got a very good job in mary jacobson. it's going to be a difficult case for stepien and kelly because as we've said before these are presumably government documents. the government knows about the history of criminal can activity stepien and kelly have been involved in and they presumably know the documents exist. if kelly and stepien were to say there's an entirely new angle the government doesn't know about and there are documents that indicate and back up there is an entirely new angle that the government knows nothing about, they may have a claim. i think that's a steep hill for them to climb and i think the lik