incentive that the us has uh, which is quite evident in the statements made there by blinken, alberta watson, if you agree, is the fact that it seems like the us is pushing for this so-called normalization to happen between uh israel and uh saudi arabia, and it's banking on that uh, but in the context of a uh palestinian state, so there comes another inconsistency here between the israeli vision and the us vision uh that - perhaps stands in the way of that, what do you make of the us approach, which uh, i'm guessing behind closed doors, it may even be a condition or precondition that the us perhaps is uh posing in this scenario, if you agree, definitely saudi arabia is not gonna um conclude normalization of relations with with israel as long as we don't find a solution for the palestinian chapter. uh, they made it very very clear that as long as there is no um a uh sovereign uh recognition of the palestinian state internationally recognized uh there would not be definitely a recognition in this relations and the normalization of relations between israel and saudi arabia but saudi arabia howe

out of ramala, professor political science bears at university sad namra. out of spain, alberta garcia watson, political analyst and activist, but welcome both of you to the program, i'd like to start off in romala, it's sad, why after almost four and a half months of this israeli onslot, is this genocide still going on? let's start from there, um, good evening for you, hashimi and for your guest from spain, it is still. continuing and on everyday on daily basis we are talking about you know this morning we are talking about more than 100 palestinians were killed in gaza and this this kind of rate of around between 100 to 150 every day and we are still talking about you know attacking the hospitals and invading of the hospitals like what happened this morning also for amal hospital in khan unis and naser hospital. also i don't what's what's with israel with this issue of hospitals because they do that also in in in the west bank uh so yeah the genocide is still continuing in spite of the fact that the whole world now is talking about you know the the must for sease fire in in in gaza but appa