we are back now with alberto gallo and jonathan fenby. n, talked about creating enemies abroad. and in order to justify what you are doing at home. ?ny comparisons alberto: they are starting out to be more specific when you look at spain or france. but clearly, it is a way to focus people's attention and ther outside, rather than domestic issues with the u.k.? the u.k. has a lot of long-standing economic problems and we think brexit is a symptom of the problems. it has divided the united kingdom. a lack of access to education for the poor people. a gdp that grows strongly but not wages. wealth doesn't go to everyone. so in and populism go hand-in-hand. you have a dream that they sold closing thell be doors. thehave an enemy i do have policies. at the moment, there is no plan. no plan to deal with brexit. put this in context for us. on the other side of the english channel, which looks more comfortable? jonathan: the u.k. -- no doubt. say, well, why did you vote like that? and now you have to face the pain of it. guy: is this divergence? jo