one of the reasons why ross albrecht started silk road was because is very committed to this sort of, even within -- what i've learned in studying and working on this book is that every libertarian project has an end plus the one version of what libertarian is. ross aldrich wasn't egress among other things which is a group that basically tries to bring down the pernicious state through many, many transactions which take place outside of the state context. so for albrecht, the part for starting the silk road was not to become the pablo escobar of the internet or of the poor internet, but also to create a space in which people could get used to the idea of engaging in secret transactions that were outside of taxation systems that were making use of bitcoin. too basically, as it were, use drugs as the attractor to the real points. which was that you would be integrated into this antistate economy. a way that we can sort of bear all this in mind is when we look at all of the transactions we engage with and takes place around us. transactions far beyond the space of cash alone. transaction