alcatraz was a federal penitentiary in three decades.re were 33 escape attempts. 23 were caught. six were shot and killed, but two drowned. but three men brothers john and clarence england and frank morris have never been found. >> they crawled out of their cells up on the roof and escaped into the san francisco bay and that you got to give it to them. they broke the system. y heads ma er, paper mache, pai >> reporter: for 55 years that legendary escape is still one of the greatest mysteries in american history. case for the last 14 years. he still gets 1 or 2 leads a month uth america" "in my g 's a more l >> welcome to alcatraz. >> reporter: the allure partly fueled by popular shows and hollywood including the movie escape from alcatraz starring clint eastwood. >> what they did is they -- >> reporter: i got an inside look at the infamous cells normally off limits to the public where the trio of bank robbers began their month long plot. i'm standing in john england's jail cell. it is 5 by 9 and the size of a standard pool table. if you

. >>> i'm in alcatraz where very few in the public get a chance to go. we'll show you how this rooftop played a big role in one of the greatest escapes in american history. arrest.. after allegedly fleeing the scene of a crash that killed two children. it hap . >>> our top stories tonight, a suspected hit and run driver is under arrest after allegedly fleeing the scene of a crash that killed two children. it happened late last night in an onramp to highway 4 and the force of the collision ejected two boys from an suv, killing them. their mother and a baby sibling are in the hospital. >>> in san jose, an early morning fire left a half a dozen people homeless. investigators are still looking into the cause but neighbors reported hearing fireworks in the area right before it broke out. >> and panicked party goers had to run for their lives when gunfire erupted in a nightclub in little rock, arkansas. others were injured in the stampede to escape, but no one was killed. >> it may be the latest in a violent escalating gang war. >> reporter: the barrage of gun

breaking out of alcatraz. only on 5 this morning, betty u takes us to rare locations on the rock to show us how they got out. >> there's something about this old prison that brings nearly 4,000 visitors by the boat load to this island on any given day. alcatraz was a federal penitentiary for nearly three decades. in that time, there were 36 escape attempts. 23 caught. 6 shot and killed. and 2 drowned. but three men, brothers john and clarence and frank have never been found. >> they escape into the san francisco bay. that you have to give it to them. they broke the system. for 55 years that legendary escape is still one of the greatest mysteries in american history. welcome to alcatraz. the allure partly fueled by popular shows and hollywood. including the movie escape from alcatraz starring clint eastwood. i got a look where the trio of bank robbers began their months long plot. i'm standing in john england's jail cell. 5 x 9. the size of a standard pool table. that's the air vent he widened to escape through

. >> i'm betty yu and i'm literally in alcatraz! 55 years ago, one of the escapees crawled through this hole. coming up i'll have more on the great escape. >> and a blast from the past as bay area county fair taking a trip back to 1967. >> the outfield at at&t park is filling up with folks. not to watch baseball but to watch opera. we'll explain and give you a forecast for the fireworks and beyond coming up. hand on a string of grass fires... on mount hamilton in the south bay. the three fires burned 85 acres... and are now 75 percent contained. >>> firefighters have the upper hand on a string of grassfires on mount hamilton in the south bay. the three fires burned about 85 acres and are now about 75% contained. and a separate brush fire near some homes in east san jose could have been a lot worse. residents in the penitencia neighborhood say a swath of defensible space prevented a disaster. the city cut down grass that grew high in the winter, in effect taking away the fuel for a fire. >> it's the most important thing that we have

. >> yeah, bob beach braved the bay's chilly weathers and swam from alcatraz to aquatic.uted in africa and climbed mount kilimanjaro, but he has always been fond of swimming. item. en a long time bucket list >> to say you swam from alcatraz on your 87th birthday and you made it. are you kidding? i will never had another birthday like this. >> beach finished the swim in 46 minutes, 67 strokes per minute at age 87. already planning his next swim. will take him back into the bay under the golden gate bridge, to wetsuits and goggles. that's a bad man right there. >> certainly is. >>> may be the dead of summer up here, but up north the volcanic national park is still trying to shake off winter. >> the main road reopened after the snowy winter. july 26th is the latest the park has ever open. crews have been working to clear the road since april 4th. >> gee. look at the snow. >> yeah. >> we will be melting around here tomorrow. >> it will get hot in a hurry. drew toomey is here with the forecast. >> it will get really hot tomorrow inland, and this heat will last for more than on

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has been a long time bucket list item. >> to say you swam from alcatraz on your 87th birthday and youare you kidding? i will never had another birthday like this. >> beach finished the swim in 46 minutes, 67 strokes per minute at age 87. already planning his next swim. will take him back into the bay under the golden gate bridge, to wetsuits and goggles. that's a bad man right there. >> certainly is. >>> may be the dead of summer up here, but up north the volcanic national park is still trying to shake off winter. >> the main road reopened after the snowy winter. july 26th is the latest the park has ever open. crews have been working to clear the road since april 4th. >> gee. look at the snow. >> yeah. >> we will be melting around here tomorrow. >> it will get hot in a hurry. drew toomey is here with the forecast. >> it will get really hot tomorrow inland, and this heat will last for more than one day. live doppler 7 along with satellite. what it is showing right now is coastal cloud cover. a quiet picture. out side we go. a live look from the exploratorium camera atop pier 15. that f

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he wanted to swim from alcatraz to san francisco. lonny rivera was there as he checked his birthday bucket list item off of the chilly waters of the bay. >> reporter: when your name is bob beach, it seems fitting to spend much of your life in the ocean. >> the water has been a great part of my life. >> reporter: so on his 87th birthday, this florida judge, grandfather and athlete, swam from alcatraz to san francisco's aquatic park. >> when i sent those guys away, i can tell them i relate to them. >> reporter: this retired judge thrives on athletic adventures. >> swimming makes you emotionally very tranquil, which is very helpful in deciding cases. >> reporter: if his birthday swim hasn't exhausted you, he's hiked mt. kill man jar u, and his next big swim, underneath the golden gate brinl. his buddy, also named bob, holds the all-time record for swimming the span of the golden gate. how quickly did you do it? >> 17 minutes and 21 seconds. >> reporter: any advice? >> i hope he doesn't break my record. >> reporter: back to this swim. fi

he wanted to swim from alcatraz to san francisco. lonny rivera was there as he checked his birthday bucket list item off of the chilly waters of the bay. >> reporter: when your name is bob beach, it seems fitting to spend much of your life in the ocean. >> the water has been a great part of my life. >> reporter: so on his 87th birthday, this florida judge, grandfather and athlete, swam from alcatraz to san francisco's aquatic park. >> when i sent those guys away, i can tell them i relate to them. >> reporter: this retired judge thrives on athletic adventures. >> swimming makes you emotionally very tranquil, which is very helpful in deciding cases. >> reporter: if his birthday swim hasn't exhausted you, he's hiked mt. kill man jar u, and his next big swim, underneath the golden gate brinl. his buddy, also named bob, holds the all-time record for swimming the span of the golden gate. how quickly did you do it? >> 17 minutes and 21 seconds. >> reporter: any advice? >> i hope he doesn't break my record. >> reporter: back to this swim. fi

our nbc bay area sky ranger spotted some of the whales near alcatraz. this has been a booming year for whale watchers. but saying boats are coming too close. bay keepers prepare for the fourth of july crowds once again warning boaters to keep your distance. >>> just because you are the mayor doesn't mean you can get out of jury duty. >> i am here to exercise a privilege of citizenship. i am showing up for jury duty. >>. >> reporter: that means you are not thinking of an excuse to get out of it. >> i served for a lot of years as a prosecutor. so i am going to do this. >> the mayor seems excited to be called in for duty. >> yeah. very proud. >> big break, fourth of july. >> you can see why everyone would want to come to town. beautiful weather. slight warmup. and then low clouds lurking around fireworks time. for the valley these numbers have come down. mid-to upper 80s in the warmest places inland. the hottest numbers we moved to next friday. doesn't get that much better than that. >> great for fireworks, barbecues and to lounge around. lester holt is ne

and he spentd 87 his birthday swarming from alcatraz to san francisco's aquatic park. he is no stranger to big swims in the pacific. he has the all-time record for swimming the span of the golden gate bridge. jonathan: sharks in those waters. newy whitehead has found a home in the nfl, the new york jets picked him up. whitehead was released by the cowboys monday after being wrongfully accused for shoplifting in prince william county. the fauquier county native is speaking out for the first time today. >> you want to hold me accountable, hold me accountable for something i did. jonathan: the police say the man they arrest it was somebody else claiming to be whitehead who had alternate security number. tonight the police are still trying to figure who that guy is. whitehead says he has no idea he was being impersonated. plans toirginia tech induct former football star michael vick into the sports hall of fame, but tens of thousands of people are saying not so fast. with a 90,000 people have signed .etitions against the induction he served prison time after being convicte

. >> the broncho is sitting in the alcatraz east crime museum in -- gate 27, while crews were refueling a southwest flight. spokesman for sfo says the spill was contained and passengers and crew de-boarded as a precaution. the flight was delayed briefly no other flight were affected. >>> data shows that workers in san francisco earn far more than the average american. the bureau of labor statistics reports that the afternoon worker in san francisco makes 53% more than other americans. the data shows that stand fran workers make around $36 an hour, while the average american makes $23 an hour. the occupations with the biggest difference in pay include management, construction, and finance. >>> we have temperatures that have come up a couple degrees, and will continue to come up on saturday, and on sunday. these are the highs from today, and the numbers that will take the biggest jump will be in the inland valleys, where fairfield to go to 98, antioch, 98, even some 100s back here. so a warm day tomorrow. and again on sunday. high pressure is just sort of, not as powerful as last weekend,

the -- there is a live shot from alcatraz and then san francisco in the background.the upper 90s it to 100 or maybe better than that in some of the inland locations. tomorrow, maybe not as aggressive as today. but getting in the territory. the upper 90s and there about 100 for high temperatures expected. a little bit of a change happening as we get into early next week. today in the forecast, 79 for oakland and over the east bay hills it is all the upper 90s and 100. 94 in walnut creek. 102 in concord. 100 for brentwood. the upper 90s for the livermore valley near 100. down to south bay we are looking at 88. palo alto at about 82. san jose n91. 87 for a santa clara. for san francisco with the fog mixed out of here, 68. sunny skies. 72 for sfo. the redwood city at 85. the coast is middle to lower 60s. half moon bay at 62. up to the north bay and rallies getting a nice warming happening. the mid-90s you can see along one-to-one. 98 for napa. vacaville reaches 106 and that is the central valley. it will be popping with the high temperatures going on today and maybe ling

we go inside the part of alcatraz the public has never seen before! we show you how three prisoners made their daring escape 55 years ago. >> but first, the marketings closed. >>> well, he had to be outside and he had to pick a nice location. >> yeah. and a very classy evening in at&t park, hey, paul. >> reporter: yeah, guys. it's not every day that you can combine two amazing things that we get to enjoy in san francisco. the opera and a baseball stadium. but tonight for the 11th consecutive year that's exactly what we're doing. we're filling the outfield right now and soon in the stands and the outfield, we will have 25 to 30,000 people enjoying an opera at at&t park. this is "sky drone 5" showing you the filling of the outfield and folks showing up now. the opera begins at 7:30. gates open at 5:00 and already thousands of people are here for opera at the park. a live simulcast of don giovanni up on the big screen and they brought in extra speakers, as well. it's going to be a beautiful evening and weather looking good here not that windy not yet. 66

as we look at angel island and alcatraz. 60s and 70s.ter 102 yesterday. 60s to the 70s. 80s, 90s. 100 today in brentwood. >>> welcome back to cbs this morning. ahead the robotic animal designed to go where no human will go. and elon musk predicts a crucial piece of your car will soon be gone but first here is today's eye opener at 8:00. >> a deadly flash flood at a popular arizona swimming area. a weekend storm unleashed a massive wall of water. >> arizona is in monsoon season. moisture and heat means more powerful storms expected today. senate republican leaders really have no choice. with mccain gone they simply did not have the votes. >> mitch mcconnell is a master parliamentarian strategist. if anyone can pull arab bit out of a hat it's him. i've seen him do it a number of times over a couple of decades but it was a tough situation. >> all are equipped with body cameras. the minneapolis community along with the mayor want to know why they weren't on during saturday's deadly shooting. >> remember the life and career of academy award w

natsbut just past alcatraz island, the crew spotted humpbacks.atsbecause most humpback whale species along the california coast are either threatened or endangered, federal rules require that all vessels stay at least 100 yards away from them in order to prevent collisions. capt nazar cut the engines and kept the kitty kat floating at a safe distance. earlier this week, a smaller boat was seen striking a whale near the golden gate bridge. nazar worries that sort of reckless behavior could harm the whales and give tour operators that play by the rules a bad sot it's very frustratingsoti don't think anyone want to intentionally hurt a whale. i think what needs to be done is truly an awareness campaign. sotif you're a hundred yards away stop the vessel. if the whale comes close to you the worst thing to do is move your boat. disengage the vessel completely. allow the whale to enjoy you and you enjoy the whale. once the whale swims a hundred yards away, move slowly away. speed and whale don't mix.natsafter about 90 minutes on the water, the kitty kat

in june of 2016, gilbert and his associates agreed to loan the bronco to alcatraz east crime museum inrge, tennessee. since then, hundreds of thousands of tourists have been able to see for themselves, the famed white ford bronco.oh and something else... museum curators found these combs still in the glove compartment. they say they belong to cowlings.and these items were in the bronco during the wild car chase in the summer of 1994. (grant) and our coverage on o-j simpson continues online... there you can find a 1991 interview with simpson by gary radnich you can hear bay area reaction... as well as how much simpson's memorabilia is going for... you can also listen to the full hearing online... all kron4 dot (steve) attorney general jeff sessions says he will continue to do his job -- despite the harsh criticism from his boss. sessions was publicly rebuked by president trump in a new york times interview.. the president said he disagreed with session's decission to step aside from overseeing the russia investigation.

that's the view looking toward alcatraz.ncisco can't see it through the low clouds and misty skies and driving into the clouds. 54 degrees currently and in san jose 60s with hazy skies to start. you can see the 24 hour temperature change as the winds turn on shore and the marine area -- starting to help with the temperatures today. but the pension to the rules still in the east bay toward solano county. heat advisory for today. we'll see probably the hottest temperatures around the bay area. you can see numbers in the mid 90s for today. san jose 80s. 70 for oakland. 60s in san francisco as we enjoy the brief cool down. we'll show you in the seven-day forecast why the heat could be making another big comeback. we have the long heat spells and hot temperatures could be resetting the pattern again in the sunday forecast. >> thank you. >>> dozens of evacuees are back in their homes this morning after a massive fire in oakland that destroyed an apartment complex under construction. and engineers had planned to take down an unstab

in june of 2016, gilbert and his associates agreed to loan the bronco to alcatraz east crime museum in pigeon forge, tennessee. since then, hundreds of thousands of tourists have been able to see for themselves, the famed white ford bronco.oh and something else... museum curators found these combs still in the glove compartment. they say they belong to cowlings.and these items were in the bronco during the wild car chase in the summer of 1994. (jr stone) and our coverage on o-j simpson continues online... there you can find a 1991 interview with simpson by gary radnich you can hear bay area reaction to the parole board's decision... as well as how much simpson's memorabilia is going for... you can also listen to this weeks full parole hearing online... all kron4 dot com. (( jr stone - landing vo)) a security flaw in popular electronic devices leaves them vulnerable to hackers. the bug affects iphones, ipads, mac computers, and some android phone and tablets. the security hole allows hackers to remotely take control of devices. kron 4's tech reporter gabe slate shows you how to patch yo

natsbut just past alcatraz island, the crew spotted humpbacks.se most humpback whale species along the california coast are either threatened or endangered, federal rules require that all vessels stay at least 100 yards away from them in order to prevent collisions. capt nazar cut the engines and kept the kitty kat floating at a safe distance. earlier this week, a smaller boat was seen striking a whale near the golden gate bridge. nazar worries that sort of reckless behavior could harm the whales and give tour operators that play by the rules a bad name. sotit's very frustratingsoti don't think anyone want to intentionally hurt a whale. i think what needs to be done is truly an awareness campaign. sotif you're a hundred yards away stop the vessel. if the whale comes close to you the worst thing to do is move your boat. disengage the vessel completely. allow the whale to enjoy you and you enjoy the whale. once the whale swims a hundred yards away, move slowly away. speed and whale don't mix.natsafter about 90 minutes on the water, the kitty kat he

alcatraz in the distrans. the transamerica pyramid there.ggy start along the coast. >>> a major strain on the foster care system. more than 2,000 kids and teenagers in sacramento county need a loving and stable home. the county only has 235 families. that number is down from about 400 last year. many of the kids have been accused, neglected and experienced trauma. >> what we really need is for adults in our community who are willing to come forward and provide loving, stable homes. >>> state lawmakers are expected to vote on extending cap and trade program. some critics say the legislation does not do to stop pollution. the program puts a limit on c carbon emissions and requires polluters, mainly companies, to obtain permits to release greenhouse gases. it would require improvements. also happening today a woman accused of killing her friend after intentionally running her over with a car could enter a plea. she is due in court in just about three hours for a plea hearing. investigators say she hit and killed sally hernandez in campbell last

natsbut just past alcatraz island, the crew spotted humpbacks.because most humpback whale species along the california coast are either threatened or endangered, federal rules require that all vessels stay at least 100 yards away from them in order to prevent collisions. capt nazar cut the engines and kept the kitty kat floating at a safe distance. earlier this week, a smaller boat was seen striking a whale near the golden gate bridge. nazar worries that sort of reckless behavior could harm the whales and give tour operators that play by the rules a bad name. sotit's very frustratingsoti don't think anyone want to intentionally hurt a whale. i think what needs to be done is truly an awareness campaign. sotif you're a hundred yards away stop the vessel. if the whale comes close to you the worst thing to do is move your boat. disengage the vessel completely. allow the whale to enjoy you and you enjoy the whale. once the whale swims a hundred yards away, move slowly away. speed and whale don't mix.natsafter about 90 minutes on the water, the kitty k

you can see a finger of fog trying to roll across the golden gate, angel island, alcatraz.life today because today is the hottest day in the forecast and our brightest one. sunshine returning to the coast quickly again, even faster than yesterday. tonight will be our warmest night with fog returning to the coast. the extended, our highs will cool back to average. let's start down in the south bay. look at this wide range from 84 in milpitas, nearly 90 in san jose. los gatos, 92. morgan hill at 97. santa cruz sunshine and 77 this afternoon. wide range on the peninsula, too. millbrae, san mateo, 72 and 76. everybody else south of that, 80 to 85 degrees. look at the coast today. mid to upper 60s for you. to 70s in downtown and south san francisco and sausalito. low to mid 70s there. 90 to 96 through most of the north bay valleys. you can see the 100s around cloverdale, lakeport, and ukiah. along the east bay shore, 76. oakland, 78, and 74 in richmond. everybody else in the low to mid 80s. to arindy at 90 and the heed continues to build as you head east. 99 in san ramon. everyo

there were some floated in almost to alcatraz. fun thing to do.ood thing to do for guests in town. >> thank you. >>> coming up next on the 11:00 news, an early fourth of july celebration here in the bay area. the festivities and fireworks already underway as san francisco gets ready for the big show tomorrow night. >> up next in sports, the warriors sign another one of their free agents today. mark will have the details on who will be returning to the world champions. ♪ ♪ award winning interface. award winning design. award winning engine. the volvo xc90. the most awarded luxury suv of the century. visit your volvo dealer today and get up to $4,500 in allowances. >>> mark is here now with sports. warriors sign another player. i thought you knew this was coming. >> not a surprise. in the nba right now, it's just funny money. you know it's ridiculous when a guy can say i'll just take $9 million less. that's pretty much what kevin durant is doing, right? he's a team guy. he's helping everybody out. he's helping the team ownership and he's making sure

. >> in june of 2016, gilbert and his associates agreed to loan the bronco to al alcatraz museum in tennesseef thousands of tourists have been able to see for themselves the famed bronco. museum cure ray tors found these combs in the glove compartment. >> our thanks to christi paul. coming up, a wake-up call for your waistline. a new study making clear connections between fat and your long-term health. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." don't go away. david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..." through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald's helps more people go to college. it's part of our commitment to being america's best first job. ♪ you give us comfort. and we give you bare feet... i love you, couch. ...backsweat and gordo's everything. i love you, but sometimes you stink. ♪ new febreze fabric refresher with odorclear technology... ...cleans away odors like never before. because the things you l

i could give you many other examples, alcatraz, wounded knee, but i'm running out of time. let me return briefly to the summer of love here in san francisco and the convergence there, to repeat my central point, which is the counter culture attraction to indianness began in innocence and ignorance, it was superficial and even fleeting in many cases. but because of the widespread interest in native american -- because of their widespread interest in native americans, because of enormous media attention, the summer of love an after that the counter cull occur continued the receive and because of the shrewd political calculations and strategies of native activists, that interest turned out to be of great importance to the broader cultural and political shift that occurred in the '60s and '70s regarding indian affairs. what maybe began as fashion or posturing in enough cases turned into serious interest and concern, and that in turn had cultural and political positive tensy as it spread beyond hippies and became accepted among mainstream america. i have to add a postscript beca

in june of 2016, gilbert and his associates agreed to loan the bronco to alcatraz east crime museum inn forge, tennessee. since then, hundreds of thousands of tourists have been able to see for the famed white ford bronco.oh and something else... museum curators found these combs still in the glove compartment.they say they belong to cowlings.and these items were in the bronco during the wild car chase in the summer of 1994. (darya) we sent out a push alert through the kron four mobile app when the parole board announced its decision at 11:55 yesterday morning. you can be the first to know about breaking news through the app. it is free for apple and android devices. just be sure to enable the push alert feature. (mark) still ahead on the kron four morning news... breaking news from overnight. a deadly earthquake hits off the coast of turkey. we'll show you the new pictures of the destruction. and after the break... we'll tell you what foods pregnant mothers should avoid to prevent your kids from having allergies. and here's a live look outside... san mateo bridge. (robin) no major hot

in june of 2016, gilbert and his associates agreed to loan the bronco to alcatraz east crime museum in forge, tennessee. since then, hundreds of thousands of tourists have been able to see for themselves, the famed white ford bronco.oh and something else... museum curators found these combs still in the glove compartment. they say they cowlings.and these items were in during the wild car chase in the summer of 1994. ( james ) we sent out a push alert through the kron four mobile app when the parole board announced its decision at 11:55 yesterday morning. you can be the first to know about breaking news through the app. it is free for apple and android devices. just be sure to enable the push alert feature. (tiffany) our own sports director gary radnich spoke to o.j. simpson in 1991. here is some of their conversation. " you mentioned you went through a tough time with divorce, and i know this is sensitive but i will ask you.. you lost a child in a swimming pool accident, how does one ever get through something like that?""i don't think you ever get over it,