alderman lopez and napolitano, shane on you. spirited debate at the heart of our democracy is not the same as using racist tropes and xenophobic rhetoric to promote yourself on the backs of others and demonize them. >> tucker: calling for an elected official to follow federal law is a racist trope, according to lori lightfoot whose city is falling apart. we're proud to have alderman lopez join us from chicago. thanks so much for coming on. so i sense a theme here. when asked -- you've been in this position a number of times. when asked simple questions about governance, why are you doing this, here's the consequences, she whips around and makes it a racial issue and dodges the question. am i imagining this pattern? >> you're not hallucinating, tucker. the race card has been pulled out more times than i care to remember to try to deflect from her efficiencies as being mayor of the city of chicago. as you played in that clip, she herself said that nobody should use racist tropes as a public official. yet here she is doing that tod

you're one of 50 alderman. she's the mayor. you're on the city council. did she seem aware of the fact that for most people of all colors, threat of getting shot may be the defining fact of their lives. does she seem worried about that working to fix it? >> sadly, i think the disconnect between what her reality is guarded at her home versus what the reality is in the other 77 neighborhoods in the city of chicago is not one and the same and recently, we saw with her emails being leaked that she clearly is not aware of what's going on in the communities and whenever people try to pierce her reality with the truth, she questions their motives. she questions what the angle is. she questions why she's being told these things that she's never heard before and it comes off in the way she does her policy because nothing she produces or suggests has any impact in improving the quality of life that we have in our city. >> tucker: i have noticed. the clip that we played where she whips around on you and another alderman and says that you're racist and you're scapego

no question. >> it doesn't get the alderman convicted.e, which could get him indicted, doesn't necessarily get him convicted. let's look at the jury pool. georgia and, b, this is a specific intent crime. what happens is, everybody in the white house says, we told trump there were votes there and that dominion or whoever had stolen them and they were stealing them in fulton county. so he was just doing what he thought was right. they will have a parade of people without criminal convictions saying, i told the president i thought he should go for it, i told the president. that screams reasonable doubt to me and a circus. i don't feel as strongly about the fulton county case. i think the new york cases are the threat. >> vance or the southern district? >> both. both. as well as the attorney general. i think there's real threat there. the vance case, the paying off of stormy daniels and basically -- 100 bucks says they did not write on their taxes, paid off stormy daniels. they wrote that they were pa michael cohen. that's not true. he is tes

that phone call from a chicago alderman to a county clerk about the election gets that alderman indictede northern district of the illinois u.s. attorney within a week. no question. >> it doesn't help the ultimate convicted. i mean, i think we have to face the fact that the georgia case could be indicted doesn't get him infected. let's look at the jury pool, right? georgia. and a, this is specific crime and what happens is everyone in the white house is we told trump that there are votes there and dominion or whoever have stolen them and they were stealing them in fulton county and so he was just doing what he thought was right and they'll have a parade of people without criminal conviction saying i told the president that i thought he should go for it. i told the president. that screams reasonable doubt to me and service. i don't feel as strongly about it as the fulton county case. i think the new york cases are the threat. >> tsai vance or the southern district? >> both. >> yeah, right. >> both, as well as the attorney general. i mean i think there's real threat there. the cy vance cas

her father was an alderman and the city comptroller. she rose through the ranks in st.e missouri state house and then as the city's treasurer before winning the mayoral race in april of the year. your challenge will require you to transcend race. >> uh-huh. >> jimmy: right? >> ye >> are you prepared for that? >>. >> i already had to transcend race and be known as someone who is going to get the work done, someone whose word is their bond, and someone who can work across the aisle. >> with all her success, her proudest achievement may be her 13-year-old son. >> i'm here today as the proud single mother of the most adorable 13-year-old son aidan. >> what has being a mother meant to you? and how has that changed your life? >> it totally changed my life because it happened right when i entered politics. but my faith is huge. so if god brings you to it, he'll bring you through it. >> reporter: she share atmosphere with so many other black mother, that her son will one day have a dangerous encounter with police. >> he and i were having a conversation about what the mayor is r

cuts with a new mayor to shar jones supporting the measure the $1000000000.00 planned now moves to aldermanfor hearings and amendments before going into full effect on july 1st. and the torch point protests didn't only shake up police reform efforts they also proved to be a catalyst for historically black college and university donors to pass the bay north carolina a and t. the country's largest h b c u has raised a whopping $88000000.00 since last summer that's in the early 6 times what it raises annually according to n.p.r. and the story doesn't stop there this is a historic year for public use the president of the thurgood marshall college fund acknowledges that donations picked up last year in the wake of the george boyd murder saying we've never seen anything like this for h.b.c. use editor at large for salon dot com and friend of the show the watkins joins us now dee good to see you again. you know i've grown pretty good pretty good deep on the police it was decried by some democrats as the reason why they lost seats in the house for president trying to use the phrase to rally work re

the cuts with new mare to shar jones supporting the measure the $1000000000.00 plan now moves to aldermanor hearings and amendments before going into full effect on july 1st. and the torch poised protests didn't only shake up police reform efforts they also proved to be a catalyst for historically black college and university donors to pass the bay north carolina a and t. the country's largest h b c u has raised a whopping $88000000.00 since last summer that's in the 6 times what it raises a new according to n.p.r. and the story doesn't stop there this is a historic year for public h.b.c. use the president of the thurgood marshall college fund acknowledges that donations picked up last year in the wake of the george boyd murder saying we've never seen anything like this for h.b.c. use editor at large for salon dot com and friend of the show the walk and joins us now dee good to see you again. pretty good pretty good deep on the police it was described by some democrats as the reason why they lost seats in the house for president trying to use the phrase to rally work republicans with fear

cuts with a new mayor to shar jones supporting the measure the $1000000000.00 plan now moves to aldermanfor hearings and amendments before going into full effect on july 1st. and that george boy protests didn't only shake up police reform efforts they also proved to be a catalyst for historically black college and university donors to pass the bay north carolina a and t. the country's largest h b c u has raised a whopping $88000000.00 since last summer that's in the early 6 times what it raises according to n.p.r. and the story doesn't stop there this is a historic year for public h.b.c. use the president of the thurgood marshall college fund acknowledges that donations picked up last year in the wake of the george boyd murder saying we've never seen anything like this you see use editor at large for salon dot com and friend of the show watkins joins us now dee good to see you again. growing pretty good pretty good deep on the police it was decried by some democrats as the reason why they lost seats in the house for president trying to use that phrase to rally work republicans with fear

the alderman zoo in new orleans canceled an event to show solidarity with the police over concerns itcommunity. i mentioned folks at the zoo hardwired when i asked people in person about that decision. >> don't see anything wrong with supporting anybody who serves the public. >> to not support the police is kind of just doesn't make sense. >> we should support the police. most everybody i know does, 1000%. it is absolutely ridiculous. >> it is absolutely ridiculous. to demonstrate that ingraham angle results, who quietly walked back her decision over the weekend. in a note to members the ceo says our participation in and cancellation of the zoo caused pain in our community and was unsupportable to hard-working people of our police department who put their lives on the line to protect and serve this community. that was never our intention, they promised a partner with police, good idea. shannon: i have a question. is it the ottoman zoo or the autobahn zoo? is it autobahn? have i been saying the whole time? >> in new orleans we pronounce it autobahn. that is how we pronounce it but shar

heartbreaking story, one of the areas hit hardest by this violence is the fifteenth ward, democrat alderman talk to those most impacted by this violence, take a look. >> what is so easy to get in these communities are destroying our communities. we have 997 shootings in the last 5 months. we have had 6 kids under the age of 10 years old, that shouldn't be. >> some of my kids have gotten killed was one of the was one of my eighth graders, he was shot two weeks after he graduated. >> does a died right here. 14-year-old shots. when you know these things we know his name and their families and struggles, not a headline but the real minds being slaughtered on the streets of chicago. >> is leadership enough to solve this problem? >> i don't think so. the da. >> what are we doing to help the people? too busy playing politics. >> you get caught with a gun, within hours. >> what you are doing out there. should multiple gun charges shooting again. >> reporter: don't care about the partisan politics. >> a lot of grief from the console. my kids are dying. democrats, the odd man out. >> within 5 months,

the democrat alderman there raymond lopez gave me a tour of the area most impacted by this violence.n these communities are destroying our communities. we have 997 shootings within the last five months. we have had sex kids under the age of 10 years old get killed. that shouldn't be. >> there are some of my kids that have gotten killed. one of them was one of my eighth graders and he was shot two weeks after he graduated. >> he was gunned down while playing basketball. daunte died right here walking home. it's easy to get numb to the headlines 12-year-old child, 7-year-old child. 14-year-old child. when you know these things, when you know these names, and you know their families and their struggle, it's not a headline anymore. these are real lives that are being slaughtered on the streets of chicago by bad policies and politicians. lawrence: do you think leadership is doing enough to solve this problem? >> no, no. i don't think so. lawrence: the mayor's office. >> no. lawrence: the d.a.? >> people make decisions are my peers. they need to come down and look what's going on in the ne

there is one alderman there trying to turn the curve there. >> that gun that is so easy to get in theseur communities. we have 997 shootings within the last five months. we've had six kids under the age of 10 years old get killed. that shouldn't be. >> some of my kids that have gotten killed. one was one of my eighth graders. he was shot two weeks after he graduated. >> he was gunned down while playing basketball. daunte died right here walking home. >> it is easy to get numb to the headlines, 12-year-old shot, 10-year-old shot. when you know these names and you know the families and their struggles it is not a headline anymore. these are real lines that are being slaughtered on the street of chicago by bad policies and inept politicians. >> do you think leadership is doing enough to solve this problem? >> no, i don't think so. >> the mayor's office, the d.a. >> no, people make decisions from up here but they need to come down and really look at what is going on in the neighborhood. >> all of these programs and all of this are fine but what are we doing to help the people? they are too

there's so much crime in chicago, you've been there, you've walked the streets with the democratic aldermane diverse by saying she's only going to take interviews with black and brown journalists. she says i have been struck since my first day on the campaign trail back in 2018 by the overwhelming whiteness and maleness of chicago's media outlets, editorial boards, the political press corps and, yes, the city hall press corps specifically. lawrence: yeah. steve: and a member of the city hall press corps with the chicago tribune, gregory pratt, tweeted this out yesterday. he said i am a latino reporter at chicago tribune whose interview request was granted for today, he tweeted. however, i asked the mayor's office to lift itsing condition on others, and when they said no, we -- the chicago tribune -- canceled the interview with the mayor because he says politicians don't get to choose who covers them. but that is what she's trying to do. she's halfway through her first term. she's two years in and has said i'm only going to speak to reporters of color about my halfway point. and so that is w