alderman lewis, dr.e inability to see black or brown kids or poor kids as human beings and as a result they are n they are not extended the fundamental basis we use to treat other kids, that is treat them with respect and dignity, don't assault them or shoot them, if they are doing something wrong, tap them on the back of the hands, let me take you to your parents as opposed to gun them down in the streets? >> michael, here's -- you know, and then -- when you think about this issue, right, and the way african-americans especially our teens are being st. louis, but america, media plays a major role in the perception that people have of these kids when they approach them. if every time you see an african-american child on tv, if he's involved in crime or whatever, then you naturally begin to have that perception. i think everybody has a role to play in turning this thing around. the other thing is when we think about the reresources that need to be available within the communities, everything from jobs to

i want to bring in the president of the board alderman lewis read. give me your reaction to what happened on the streets last night. >> well, you know, first off, i think we have to start with the release of that video yesterday. i think that that sparked what we saw last night. i think it was a drastic mistake on behalf of the ferguson police department. i think it was a pr stunt that went bad. part of what you saw last night was these looters coming in trying to, you know, create more havoc but the important thing that happened was the residents and also the peaceful demonstrators stood between the looters and the property, the stores, and said no, you're not going to do that to our community. with that, we take hope away that there is a better tomorrow, you know, on the forefront. >> liouis, do you think this isa case of a small-town police department not being equipped, or do you think an attempt to criminalize michael brown? >> well, i think that yesterday -- this is just my opinion. but yesterday's pr stunt was just an attempt to soil the reput

joining me is lewis reed. mr. alderman, let me begin with you. i thought the release of the information by the police in ferguson was terribly executed. here is why. people wanted to know the identity of the police officer who shot mike brown. when we finally got that information, it came wrapped in a 19-page police report talking about a robbery. the chief then offered a timeline. verbally offered a timeline where i thought he was suggesting a connection between use of deadly force and robbery of cigars. later, the chief said darren wilson did not know brown was a suspect when he initially confronted him and later in the day, the chief told the st. louis post dispatch that initially he did not regard him as a suspect, but when he saw the cigars in his hands, things changed. i guess my question is this. is this what you get when the chief of a small police department is thrust into the national spot light and has to deal with the national media or is this deliberate on the chief's part to obfuscate and cloud and confuse some of the details of the

joining me is lewis reed. mr. alderman, let me begin with you. i thought the release of the information by the police in ferguson was terribly executed. here is why. people wanted to know the identity of the police officer who shot mike brown. when we finally got that information, it came wrapped in a 19-page police report talking about a robbery. the chief then offered a timeline. verbally offered a timeline where i thought he was suggesting a use of deadly force and robbery of cigars. later, the chief said darren wilson did not know brown was a suspect when he initially confronted him and later in the day, the chief told the st. louis post dispatch that initially he did not regard him as a suspect, but when he saw the cigars in his hands, things changed. is this what you get when the police department is thrust into the national spotlight and deal with the national media or is this deliberate on the chief's part to obfuscate and cloud the details of the case? >> michael, i worked with him back in the police division. he is a great police office