i spent an uneasy time in alderson federal prison, i guess it's called. can't even remember the name. but, to pass the time, i took up whatever i could possibly take up. - mm-hmm. - reading; it was like a great reading vacation. but i also took pottery. ceramics it's called there. wait, wait, wait, you made these in prison? i did. you were allowed to make three pieces of ceramics in five months. but i persuaded the powers-that-be that this was one piece because you couldn't just do three of them, you had to do the whole thing. so i think there's 12 pieces or 15 pieces. so this is a nativity scene? this is a nativity, um... figures for a crèche, a christmas crèche. - but this is so intricate. - aren't they beautiful? oh, my god. and you had to ship it out you know, and you had to wrap everything. and nothing got broken - i was so pleased that... - ( laughs ) you know, these are so great. look it, these are the three wise men bringing their gifts to baby jesus. and here's joseph and mary. and these beautiful camels. harvey: this is incredible. martha: so i