than alec guinness did. >> yeah, there's an iron to george. there's a bit of a sadist. >> rose: a sadist? >> he's complex because there's. it's like that afterburners. he knows when the to shift and this sort of... when i met le carre, i was looking far voice for him and i found in the john. >> rose: you found the voice in john le carre. >> but he sort of sits as i do in the film. he sits sort of slightly back. slightly off the right angle. and people open up and that's one of the... that's a great skill. that's the great skill of smiley. he can get people to... he can get people to talk. and when he needs to, that side of him that's a little crueler he does what i used to call the tickle. he just tickles people. it's like if you're with someone who's passive aggressive. they put you on the back foot. they discombobulate you. because you can't put your finger on it. you think "i think i've just been insulted but i'm not sure." and that's the sort of great ability that smiley has. and then there's equally the mass kis because stays... >> rose:

come forward with a proposal that means local health needs, and also that the 290 million pounds alec guinness for hospitals is still available. >> i understand my honorable friend's concerns about the issues. the priority for the trust remain secure in the future of the epsom, st. helier, and sutton hospitals. >> the prime minister is keen to tell us that work should always pay. what do you say to my constituents from low and middle-income families, to convey their peers about the measures being brought forward by the government, such as the removal of working and child tax credits? these are working people who are already facing severe financial difficulty, and the proposal could cause the hard working families with disabled children with a receipt of a lower disability premium? >> i make two points to the honorable lady. of course, we have had to reform the tax credit system. when we came into office, even people in this house were eligible for the credit, and we have taken it further down the income scale. in terms of what she said about disability, i make two points. the disability living