alec sheppard is our guest. we will talk about campaign 2020 four and other views.elcome to the program. guest: good morning. host: good morning let's talk about campaign 2024 how are things going in light of president trump legal problems and president biden low popularity ratings. guest: things could change but nothing has changed so far. as candidates come into the race, we will probably see another drop and we have not seen the basic -- change. joe biden remains a popular choice, but no republican candidate has been able to really hit at donald trump's lead. it seems like we are in a holding pattern. that may change regarding on whether or not donald trump shows up. i make it pessimistic that we get a competitive republican primary. you may not see the dynamic between the trump and biden rates which they are head-to-head with about 14% right now. we may not see that Ñ early part of next year. that could change in our editorial meetings. people get mad at me about my pessimism about his race altering at all but what we see right now is the same thing over and ove

alec sheppard is a writer at the new york -- new republic. you can vi his work on new republic.com. up next joe member joy owed -- discusses his report on confirming this cd -- from forming the cdc and the lessons learned from the covid-19 pandemic. stay with us. ♪ announcer: this yearbook tv celebrates 25 years of books and authors. >> from the 22nd year in the -- in a row we are live at the national book festival. >> since 2001 book tv in partnership with the library of congress has provided signature, in-depth, uninterrupted coverage of the national book festival during nonfiction authors books and guess -- book guests. you can watch the live coverage of the national book festival. hear from chasse and buttigieg, from his book i have something to tell you for young adults and former football player author of the yard between us. see the national book festival schedule online and book tv.org. the national but as the bull live, saturday, beginning at 9:00 a.m. eastern on c-span two. ♪ announcer: sunday not on c-span q&a, chief white house correspondent james rose and author of scal

alec sheppard is a writer at the new york -- new republic.n view his work on new republic.com. up next joe member joy owed -- discusses his report on confirming this cd -- from forming the cdc and the lessons learned from the covid-19 pandemic. stay with us. ♪ announcer: this yearbook tv celebrates 25 years of books and authors. >> from the 22nd year in the -- in a row we are live at the national book festival. >> since 2001 book tv in partnership with the library of congress has provided signature, in-depth, uninterrupted coverage of the national book festival during nonfiction authors books and guess -- book guests. you can watch the live coverage of the national book festival. hear from chasse and buttigieg, from his book i have something to tell you for young adults and former football player author of the yard between us. see the national book festival schedule online and book tv.org. the national but as the bull live, saturday, beginning at 9:00 a.m.astern on c-span two. ♪ announcer: sunday not on c-span q&a, chief white house correspon