speaker: alex, ramon's son, and alex's best friend vincent... ms.re practically glued together. vincent is a chinese boy. he is alex's best friend. investors want to buy the restaurant. it's a lot of money. lots and lots of money. i have to talk to you. we just got an unbelievable offer. what are you talking about? two investors came to my office today. they want to buy the restaurant. tell your investors it's not for sale. hey, don't walk away from this. this is a serious offer... serious money. i'm not selling this place. i think it's a good idea that ramon doesn't want to sell that restaurant because it's a family business. alberto wants to take the money and go photograph desert landscapes. i'd rather keep the business, if that was me. ramon's life is that restaurant so he doesn't want to part with it. ption center wgbh educational foundation] funding for this program [with captioning] was provided by: additional funding is provided by: and:

alex, do me a favor. microphone and hold it in front of your mouth. >> i've never heard of a voice analysis. i was doing everything i could to try to clear up whatever their thoughts were. i had no doubts on the answers i give him. i was extremely confident. >> but alex will remain in the sheriff's department deep into the night as the atmosphere in the interrogation room radically changes. >> i promise you it was you. you were there? >> how? it's proven to be 4x better at smoothing lines and deep wrinkles than professional treatments. roc® max for maximum results. i don't have to leave my desk and get up and go to the post office anymore. [ male announcer ] with stamps.com you can print real u.s. postage for all your letters and packages. i have exactly the amount of postage i need, the instant i need it. can you print only stamps? no... first class. priority mail. certified. international. and the mail man picks it up. i don't leave the shop anymore. [ male announcer ] get a 4 week trial plus $100 in ex

this is phil and alex talking here. phil who's a man here.i was 16 i didn't want my mom know what i was frickin' doing. >> made me seem more comfortable saying it's just me and you talking, almost seemed as if it was off the record. >> do you think somebody intentionally went to hurt them or something just went wrong? >> he is providing a scenario which is not unusual for a investigator to do, a detective to do. >> gets into a frenzy. [ bleep ] >> i knew my girlfriend was outside and couple of friends were waiting for me back home to come back. we were going to have a fire out in the woods. >> but before alex leaves, police ask him to take a lie detector test on a computerized voice stress analyzer, or cvsa. >> what this is it measures the stress of the voice. so as long as you tell the truth, you'll be able to pass with this with no problem and i'll be the best friend you've got today. >> cool. >> once again alex is asked a series of general questions about the double homicide. >> do you know anything about how they were killed or anything?

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and we saw alex by himself. the way the world was moving by him, and not noticing him, and he looked so sad. and no one cared. and i thought that this might be a kid that's experiencing bullying. i was able to share with him that, you know, i had gone through that. and how hard it was to talk about it. i think that really gave him a lot of courage. >> the particular thing that was really terrifying for me was getting home from school. i didn't take a bus, i had to walk. i was always trying to find a route where, like, i wouldn't get beat up. i got punched so much, that i didn't have black and blue marks, my arms were just like this permanent shade of yellow. and the thing that i really carried into making this film was just how difficult it was to really explain what was happening. crazy. this is the middle school i went to. this was a place where i had a pretty hard time. it was very difficult to talk to my father about it. my dad fought in world war ii, and he just was this really tough guy. his response was,

someone that alex really looked up to. >> i you're a rapper?and alex literally says, can i drop some rhymes and sean kingston was like, okay. >> any subjects that you want me to freestyle about? >> bullying. >> bullying? >> bullying? i'll see what i can do. ♪

boyd he is a venezuelan blogger and civil and political rights activist and in washington we cross to alex maine he is an international policy analyst at the center for economic and policy research right gentlemen cross-talk rules and effect i mean you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage it george what is job as his legacy. well i think frankly chavez is legacy is twofold domestically speaking the first is the vast improvement in the social welfare of everyday venezuelans the massive decline in poverty the near eradication of extreme poverty and the provision of free health care free education to the poorest of venezuelans for the first time on the political side which i actually think is more important the legacy is one of increased popular participation in direct and participatory democracy in the every day runnings of the state in this was something that is far from complete in venezuela and it remains the task of the forthcoming government but it's really this element of the chavez legacy which is which has allowed venezuelans to participate in engage in political li

please give a big welcome to alex labie. [cheers and applause ] >> let me talk to you about -- about bullying and what i p went through and what many people go through. most of the shy kids out there, they are afraid that they'll get picked on if they actually show who they really are. being me, i learned that it wasn't me. it was them. [cheers and applause ] >> they punched me in the jaw, strangle me, knocked things out of my hand, took things from me, sit on me. they pushed me so far that i -- i wanted to become the bull. >> what? >> come on! >> no. no. no. ow! while are you stabbing me with it? >> give it to him hard! >> everything that happened to me on that bus happened every day, if not worse. some of them i grew up with but they turned on me because they didn't want to get bullied. >> hey, you're my buddy, okay? >> i'm not your body. i will [ bleep ] a brookestick up your bleep and cut your face off. know what i'm saying? >> yeah, i know what you're saying. >> is i laughed about it because i wanted a friend and strang

i feel that they were elected by the people they were in popular election by the people alex jump in yes no well well absolutely that's right i mean whether they were aligned with chavez or not i don't think is the point these were democratic elections that elected all of the assembly members the constituent assembly. you know and they had a mandate of the people they reported back to the people and there was a period of consultation of all sorts of sectors of society when that constitution was being drafted and then something quite unprecedented in the region probably in the world in terms of drafting constitutions and that constitution was submitted to a popular referendum something that's also very rare in the history of the world history in constitutional history and so i think you know often you read in the media that you know costs chad has created this constitution that he forced this constitution on the venezuelan people and nothing could be further further from the truth. i was like it was a democrat and i think it worked well well. there's there's there's a few there's a fe

and they have exercise this right in the world should listen ok you guys are being real quick here alex. it. could be short for the past few years the argentine gorgon has accused the u.k. of a policy of twenty first century calling at least in the islands they were for in the most interesting and important tool by the u.k. to show that the wheel of the island be respected the need for people to have lived in most of cases most cases for their entire lives in the silence ok richard but peter peter out peter i would say that it's not it's not is it a little bit of a church or as you would say be very lively richard first place. and the problem is it's not a question of what the island does think it's a question of the sovereignty of the islands of the see around them and that present belongs to britain and it is claimed by argentina the view them thought the island is that completely and absolutely irrelevant all right go ahead irrelevant that is not true the the wishes of the will of the islanders is very important here this is what it's all about it's about what do the people of the fa

alex? >> okay. kristen, thank you very much for that from the white house. >> thank you. >> about ten minutes or so from now we're going to talk with congresswoman loretta sanchez. she's here in studio. she's of course a member of the homeland security committee and we're going to ask her directly how serious is north korea in terms of being a threat here to the u.s. homeland? >>> meantime, in less than an hour a big gathering of conservatives resumes in washington, d.c., a meeting known as cpac. last night former florida governor jeb bush delivered a blunt message to his fellow republicans. >> way too many people believe republicans are anti-immigrant, anti-woman, anti-science, anti-gay, anti-worker, and the list goes on and on and on. many voters are simply unwilling to choose our candidates, even though they share our core beliefs, because those voters feel unloved, unwanted, and unwelcome in our party. >> for more on that, as well as the latest from the president i'm joined by amie parn

someone that alex had really looked up to. >> i heard you're a rapper. >> yes. >> and alex literallymes and sean kingston was like, okay. >> any subjects that you want me to freestyle about? >> bullying. >> bullying?

argentina needs to listen the people of the falkland islands want to remain british it's very clear alex is it an either or situation here as it was just described. pretty much unfortunately we have to look at this from historical perspective i think both of argentina alone have been fighting for control of the island. and making sense of. the day when the u.k. is accused of how and explain their arguments they used to leave their lands in the brawl in their own people and we see depending on who you ask nor are you or a british historian going to tell you different version of probably just plain history. obviously both nations are not going to agree on some kind of sobriety is not on the table the u.k. has always said that and i actually disagree we've what look said i think d.c. said to especially because argentina has been trying to get the sympathy vote from latin america from the from the developing world scene or the u.k. or the evil is the evil can through they're trying to steal the last of curry not like a city's twenty first century call nearly sim and the u.k. straight to. a f

>> well, it is a very good relationship, of course, alex.ven before the pope francis was elected pledged obedience and reverence to the next pope just to make sure that there was no doubt that he wouldn't put any of his authority in doubt, and pope francis on his side has said all along on numerous occasions that he has gratitude or expressed his gratitude towards the work done by pope benedict xvi during his eight years of pontificate. even called him a couple of times on the phone. the first night after his election he called him up to express his gratitude and then he called him again on saint joseph day after the mass of the installation mass, as saint joseph, of course, was also the day for joseph ratzinger, the real name of cardinal of pope benedict xvi. we're all here waiting to see whether the pope appears on the balco balcony, but also to see how that meeting goes. >> i did appreciate that one of the first things the pope did upon being elected was offer prayers for benedict. so clearly they must have a very good relationship. claud

alex?t, peter, thank you so much. >>> here at home the senate passed its first budget in four years, this during an all-night session. the nonbinding blueprint passed by a near party line vote. before its passage the senate spent several hours taking up dozens of amendments. >> average voteorama, 35 amendments. we've done 70, twice as many. doing this has been a herculean feat. >> i know everyone is exhausted and you may not feel it at the moment, but this is one of the senate's finest days in recent years and i commend everyone who has participated in this extraordinary debate. >> some of the amendments had nothing to do with the budget or fiscal policy, but party operatives on both sides are keeping score of last night's votes for potential campaign fodder in 2014. joining me now political reporter for "u.s. news & world report" lauren fox and white house reporter for "the washington post" david nakamura. david, the white house really lowered expectations. did anything happen to exceed th

alex? >> something else that could be deemed successful, the first budget in four years after the all nighter friday into saturday, what's the reaction there at the white house? >> final votes came in at 5:00 a.m. the white house thinks it's a good thing, that bill that passed through the senate really echos what president obama would like to see in terms of deficit reduction but the problem, of course, is when you match up is the senate bill with the house bill. the senate bill calls for deficit reduction through increasing taxes and spending cuts and, of course, the house bill calls for steep cuts in balancing the budget within ten years. of course, some revisions to medicare as well. a lot of differences and we have another deadline coming up. the debt ceiling will have to be revisited this summer, alex. >> looking forward to that. >> reporter: yeah, we all are. >> thank you very much, kristen welker. >>> joining me right now, andy sullivan and ann palmer. ann, i'll begin with you. the p

alex sintec. >>> venga mi alex. >>> ya llegÓ. >>> ya >>> continuamos con mÁs de "despierta amÉrica."dÍas en los estados unidos. tenemos responsabilidad con nuestros hijos que empieza en la casa, nosotros compramos los carros, le damos la llave. >>> (hablan en inglÉs). >>> por encima de su profundo dolor la familia berea pudo relatar su historia, en mÁs de 22 escuelas locales, y ademÁs de hacer varios eventos, muchos de ellos completamente gratis. >>> tratamos tambiÉn de influencir el que deben cuidar a sus personas, al momento de subir a un carro, ellos son responsables de todos los seres que estÁn alrededor. >>> el ardÚo trabajo de los berea, les rindiÓ muchos frutos. >>> nos dio la oportunidad de tener ma mÁquina de velocidad, y esta mÁquina pues ha ayudado a muchos a darse cuenta que estÉ en el mismo lugar que rebecca muriÓ. >>> le preguntÉ que pensarÍa su hija de su labor, entre lÁgrimas me respondiÓ el doctor. >>> mi hija llegÓ a este mundo por otras razones, yo creo eso. vamos a seguir esta misiÓn. y seguir su nombre bien en alto. y creo que esa es la lecciÓn mÁs grande que le

alex? >> okay.l, thank you for the live report. >>> north korea's vow to attack the u.s. just an idle threat or wins of war? i'll talk about that later. >>> to the weather now, in massachusetts, about a dozen homes have been damaged, some left precariously hanging right over the ocean there after a powerful storm. the storm knocked at least one house entirely off its foundation. then in denver, what could be a last blast of winter, the mile-high city getting slammed with blizzard conditions over the weekend, they could get hit with at least a foot of snow. nbc's mike seidel with the very latest for us. mike, not a pretty picture there at all. >> reporter: yeah, and i want to emphasize that denver can snow even into june. they have snowed every month for the year except july. march is the second slowest month, in april, they average about 6 inches. don't discount the fact this may not be the last storm. so far we've had a couple of inches downtown on the college campuses. we can see the skyline right

>> you can't make this stuff up, alex.ly important here is that the day that rodman made these comments, within hours, the committee for human rights in north korea released their report about a significant expansion of the prison camp system. these are the most horrific places on earth. you know, what rodman did was actually beneficial. because it put a spotlight on a report that probably would not have gotten attention. but now we're talking about it. it's important we do so. because although, you know, the kims might be really nice people and they may like basketball, the problem is that they run a really repressive regime as you point out. >> yeah. does this meeting do anything, you think, in the general image for kim jong-un here? >> i don't think so. because, you know, north korea is bizarre. dennis rodman is strange. you put them together and you get the festival of the weird. you know, i hope that relations with north korea get better. but, on the other hand, north korea has to stop doing a lot of things, not only

alex? >> pete, thank you very much, pete williams. >>> developing now, two explosions rocked afghanistan overnight as u.s. secretary of defense chuck hagel made his first visit there. nine after gans were killed in the first attack. officials say hagel was in a safe location and unharmed. the taliban claimed responsibility saying it was a warning to the u.s. joining me now from kabul, msnbc's mike tybee. good morning to you. apparently they're sending a message to hagel there? do we have signal -- >> reporter: that's what they said. >> yeah, we do. >> reporter: i think -- atrinted to the weapons, we have the time. the taliban saying in the only statements made to this point, self-appointed representatives, that they are going to wait to see what happens after the drawdown because they say nothing less than a full return to power is going to be acceptable. with these suicide bombings you're talking about were awful. one in the eastern city of kost with -- eight of nine killed and the first o

>> reporter: well hi, alex.to gingerly investigate this because as you said they don't know exactly how big this hole is. throughout the morning they allowed -- nobody has actually been able to go in. they've moved the media several feet because they've been running the tests around that house. shortly a little while ago -- >> you know, this might be one of those times we heard a couple of voices there, you guys. it might be that there is some media -- lots of media coverage and somebody next to them was having a report being done live as well. we will get back to gabe as soon as we get that all straightened out. >>> meantime a tale out of iran 33 years in the making. it's not "are go" it's the story of the other 52 hostages, the ones held captive for 444 days. the story without the hollywood ending. they are now in a new fight. one of the original hostages talks with me next. out money well we suddenly noticed that everything was getting more expensive so we switched to the bargain detergent but i found myself

out okay, alex? >> reporter: everybody did make it out okay and in fact this is a very stubborn fire and you can see right now flames are continuing to burn up in the addict area and they are using the latter truck to get some water up on the roof of this pulling and from time to time we'll see flames breakout. here is video from later on and the apartment units are up above storefronts. this started 2:30 and it started in alameda, it is a three-story building and so far there are no reports of injuries and i talked with the captain a short time ago and the challenge is to get this fire out. i spoke to a man who woke up his family and got out when he thought there was a fire. >> i thought somebody turned the lights on, i saw the neighbor with the mask on and i grabbed my baby and i said let's get out of here there is a fire and they are like really what is going on. i have been here for five years and nothing like this ever happened so for me it was hard to believe. >> the fire did breakout in one of

>> hi, alex.gized about the conservative movement across the country and i think it was one thing we all agree is that we cannot continue to wait for washington, d.c. to lead, whether it is in the areas of health care, taxes or spending, you name it washington, d.c.'s proven it's either incapable or unwilling to make the necessary changes that are required for us to have reform. if there's going to be reform, it's going to happen in the halls of state governments around the country. >> how about any reform needed within the republican party? we heard sarah palin say that she didn't think that the branding of the party needed to be tackled that there were other issues. what do you think? >> i think we need to gout and we got to tell our message, think we got to have a right message and we need the right message and i think what cpac is all about is coming together with conservatives all across the state and making sure we are united. what i have heard throughout the thing, the halls of the gatherin

>>> welcome to "weekends with l alex witt." alex is off. i'm craig melvin. >>> the first full day of sequester. the government will start cutting some $85 billion officially triggering reductions that here pose the congress failed to avert. >> it's important to understand we won't feel the cuts' pain right away. many will have their lives disrupted in a significant away. >>> house speaker john boehner spoke to david gregory for "meet the press" right after the meeting with president obama on friday and other congressional leaders. >> in the end, we will see a pathway here that's open. >> if i did, the meeting at the white house might have gone better. >> $85 billion is a 9% domestic program defense and 13% to defense. hundreds of thousands of americans could be affected. kristen welker has more from the white house this morning. >> reporter: president owe became kra and members of congress are waking up with the knowledge that the $85 billion in spending cuts have gone into effect this morning. this after an 11th hour meeting on friday whic

joining me now "politico" reporter alex isenstadt and peter fenn.both of you into "the war room". are democratic candidates feeling vulnerable or more worried about other part's of the participate's agenda. >> i think democrats are worried a little bit about some aspectover the participate's agenda. particularly in those areas that they need to win control of the house. democrats are a little bit concerned about gun control and the president's posture on that and how that is going to play with the republican voters that they need to win over in. >> michael: peter listening to alex and how we talk about here how would you advise democrats to take advantage of the current budget dynamics? is there a way out of it in terms of marketing? >> yeah, there sure as heck is. i agree with alex i have done a lot of work in the intermountain west, the south, and you have some issues there that can play. but this budget is so draconian, it makes alice in wonderland look like a straight-laced book. this business of cutting medicare and medicaid even further, of ge

the gas pump bursts into flames with alex trapped underneath. the fire fueled by leaking gasoline. >> and when the fire hit, knowing there was a man there, the first thing i thought of was getting that fire extinguisher. >> and when i came out, laura was headed back toward the door with the fire extinguisher and handed it off to me. the fire was starting to come up so i jumped on top of the fire and tried to knock it down the best i could to get the guy out from underneath it. i used up almost all the fire extinguisher and then put it underneath the pump and blasted him with it. >> following emergency procedure, another sales clerk, kelly chapman, shuts down the power and as captured by the surveillance camera calls 911. >> 911. what's your emergency? >> i'm at the gas station. we have a fire. >> where is the fire? >> the pumps. it's at the pump. >> get everyone away from there. we'll send -- >> everybody get away! oh, my god. oh, my god. get away from there! >> are they listening? >> no. you guys, get away from there! >> is it an open flame? >>

i don't know if i was getting through to alex. but i do know that i was getting closer to that entrance of that cell. and we turned and we started walking down the cell tier. we get to the entrance of the cell block. and nancy is white. and she says to me, i don't know if you realize how lucky you are right now. >> hale might have been lucky. and he made it out of kentucky state knowing alex bennett never will. but bennett has accepted that. >> i never think about the outside world anymore. never, ever. i don't dream about the outside world. i don't read about the outside world. i'm 100% prison. i'm 100%, this is my life. prison is my life. and this is all i've got. and that's all i think about. >>> coming up on "lockup: raw," a prolific prison killer reflects on his crimes on the inside. >> i stabbed him 36 times. i wanted to put so many holes in him that there was no chance that he could survive. on the gouda. [ both ] ugh! when it came to our plants... we were so confused. how much is too much water? too little? until we got mi

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. >> but claude doesn't gain worldwide fame until teenager alex graham visits the zoo during a family generally really quiet. we were looking around. i walk off by myself. >> soon alex comes face-to-face with claude the bear. >> so i take out my camera. >> alex can't believe his eyes when claude picks up the stick. >> i was pretty amazed when i saw claude playing with the stick doing all these amazing tricks. at the time i was filming it, i was thinking this could get millions of view on youtube. >> alex decides to make his vision a reality. he comes home from his trip and edits together a montage of claude's best moves. the bear's tricks are so unbelievable that even alex's sister yuki thinks it's a fake. >> there's a ton of crazy stuff in japan, so i thought maybe it was a show or something. then he's like, no, it's real. >> alex uploads the video in september 2009. >> i start getting thousands of views. started getting really excited. then week after week it kept blowing up. >> before long, the video entitled "kung fu bear" receives more than 3 1/2 million hits on youtube. the vide

alex: thanks for joining us. i'm alex paen. know this, but every day thousands of men, women, and children are reported missing. working with various law enforcement agencies across the country and the national center for missing and exploited children, this program each week spotlights several of these missing cases, hoping someone, like you, might have information that will lead to finding these individuals. but we can't do it alone. so please pay close attention to these faces and stories. have you seen these 4 children? angelo, santino, selena, and walter leo are missing from santa ana, california. the 4 siblings were last seen on january 28, 2006 in the company of an adult female relative. the adult relative has since been located, but the children's whereabouts remain unknown. angleo leo is 7 years old with black hair and brown eyes. santino is 16 years old with brown hair and green eyes. selena is 11 years old with black hair and brown eyes. walter leo is 9 years old and has brown hair and brown eyes.

good afternoon alex. >> reporter: and good afternoon to you tori. this appears to have been a targeted killing, police tell me the shooter in the case walked up to the woman here on this street and shot her then got into a car and took off. and it did happen in the middle of daytime here with lots of people in the area and it happened right in front of the flammable where you can see there's still a -- family market where you can see there's still a crowd here right now. what the scene looked like a short time ago. neighbors were out here many of them in disbelief. it happened near 12th street and me real that. witnesses tell ktvu they heard at least ten shots. the woman who neighbors tell us was in her early 30s possibly late 20s was dead when police got here. they aren't talking about motive may have been for the kilning but one woman -- killing but one woman knows the victim and can't make sense of what happened. >> i want you to give it to me. she got it. she a very good person. >> the people who did it are probably nearby. that's the tragedy of

the other thing you asked about with the parent when sunset is referring to alex's dad. >> they are referring to his mom and dad being upset with him for not standing up for himself, i just wanted to cringe. >> what's clear is when dad said if you don't make a stop, this could happen to your little sister. then the sister gets in on it and it's, like, just puts the, as sisters will do, but i think as a, as someone who was a boy and had difficult conversations with my dad, i really really remember that sort of punch them, make it go away. a lot of families will give that advice. i'm not even convinced that's the wrong advice, the problem is when they doesn't work, then they shut down and quit coming to you because they are afraid it's a double disappointment. they can't please their peers and find friendship and then they so don't want to lose their fathers as well, this boy-father thing is so deep. >> every single person in this room wants to start making a difference. we want to start doing it right now. ros, how do you start giving a child the dignity that was taken away? >> i'm actually go

please welcome alex cabot. hey, alex. >> thank you!hank you. >> okay, you want a space in your home that's designated for you. >> i do. my lovely wife, patti, is a very organized person. and every square foot of our house, with the exception of the unfinished basement, is pretty much a is pretty much accounted for up to this point. >> okay. >> so once i win plenty of money today, i'm gonna finish the basement and get a little zone there that's just for me. >> and what do you put in that zone that makes it a real man cave? what does it have to have? >> it's got to be very dimly lit, plenty of dark leather furniture, which will be great, maybe a big screen, some stadium seating with the built-in cupholders... >> oh, yes. very nice. >> very excited about that. and maybe a wet bar or two, depending on how it goes. we'll see what happens. >> and then you're gonna spend your weekends down there. >> yeah, most likely, yeah. >> okay. >> yeah, that's the plan. [laughter] >> i have a feeling patti might have some ideas of her own. so we'll find