so much john pack here and helping me to do just that is the political analyst alex accaman, and via skype from leicester is dr. ishmail patel, he's the founder of friends of alaxa and member of the conflicts forum. gentlemen, good to see you both, but we start off with obviously some more news, alex that were... we're going to delve deeper into, we know that washington blocked uh israel again, provided some cover at the united nations. uh, just briefly, your assessment of that situation. thank you very much for this another show about gaza, and uh, it's sad that we have to go through this again in this 21st century, war still going on around the globe, now the situation in the... is heartbrokening and uh heartbroken and despite the calls and uh the negotiations unfortunately things are not progressing and yesterday we're really shocked to see that again the us is basically against having this stopped so things are piling up again people have been murdered and destriction still continues now "we don't really know what the us really want to achieve before we understand the destriction