there to join press conference from blan imitation, and no said the better russian president, alex alexander shanker, who's in moscow, they talks about many things, primarily the relationship between the 2 countries. and of course the train was a major talking point to we can run through some of what was said as well because i think we can cross live nice to a corresponding saskia taylor. he was also no saskia for the moment. we do apologize. hopefully we'll go to her in the next few minutes, but i can just summarize pretty much what was said there. ukraine, as i said, was told the gender norm that president putin said. the key, again, is not implementing the minced records and refuses to talk with them yet. and the guns and he said that systematic human rights violations continues to happen. there, particularly russians are being affected, discriminated against snap. i think we can return to that press conference. let's see what is happening there right now. the thing you recently, so we shawn things, how do you know the particulars as to made the chances of the russian people to lose you? because