alex berenson is the author of -- he joins us now. alex berenson, you're the science guy.n ironically, the only person really. is there a scientific justification for continuing measures like quarantines and mandatory mass quarters? >> no. short answer to this, what's so maddening about this is we've been through this now twice. we've been through it i in the spring and summer. in the spring, were told lockdowns were going to quickly turn things around and it's going to be 15 days to flatten the curve. none of it turned out to be true. it turns out that lockdowns are in many ways counterproductive because they drive people inside with a log of transmission inside. they don't do anything to help people in nursing homes and care homes were so many deaths occur. masks, the best science, they suggest that they do very little or nothing. perhaps if you have a n95 mask properly fitted, you have a big defense. there's a big study that were waiting on almost four months late now and we assume it's been dumb not because it showed masks work but the people in the establishment are d

alex berenson will join us in just a moment, but first, one of the parents from fairfax county, annad evening, thanks for being here. all parents out there, we know how difficult this is. what has it meant for you and your children? how's the challenge been? >> think is so much for having me on tonight. you know, this has been an extremely challenging time for parents, certainly for our family. we have -- had a second-grader and a fourth-grader in fairfax county public schools. we've been doing virtual schooling since about march of last year. about five months. the hard -- very hard decision to withdraw our students from fairfax county. it has just become what was obviously just an unworkable situation for our kids. you know, being online, our kids would get on about 9:15 in the morning and be on until -- given the day, 2:00, 2:30, sometimes 3:00 in the afternoon and they would have breaks in their but it was an extremely challenging thing for them. i know how i feel after a couple back-to-back zoom calls and i'm an adult, and so for them to try to stay focused for that long was rea

alex berenson joins us, they reversed it but you are basically in theev position whee you have to monitormazon 24/7 to see whether a couple of hours gone by and they have decided to kill your book all over again. >> this is actually the second time, the second separate book that they tried to censor and it headed back down. i'm very fortunate because i have people like tucker who will stand up for me are people like elon musk will stand up for me but big tech censorship of opposing views on covid is a huge problem. my book is about masks and obviously i would like everyone to read it and understand how weak the science in favor of mask mandates really is but this isn't about masks and it isn't about covid, it's about whether or not as a society where going to allow people who have views that are outside with the mainstream media want you to believe 2% of views. that's true in old media and social media, it's becoming harder and harder to have honest conversations. i was a reporter for -- >> mark: let me ask you about that. this is the fascinating thing, there are touchy issues such as rac

alex berenson joins us.x, they reversed it, but you are basically in the position where you have to monitor amazon 24/7 2c weather a couple of hours go by and they decided to take your book all over again. >> they reversed it now for the second time, a second separate book that they tried to censor then had to back down. you know, i'm very fortunate because i have people like tucker who will stand up for me or people like elon musk will stand up for me, but big tech censorship of opposing views on covid is a huge problem and partly a bigger problem and my book is about masks and i would like everybody to read it and in favor of masked mandates really is but this isn't about masks and it's not about covid but it's about as a society will we allow people who have used outside of the mainstream media want you to believe to present those views. and that is truly both media and social media. it is becoming harder and harder to have this conversation. look at my wits reporter -- >> mark: just let me ask you about

alex berenson, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> tucker: amazing! naomi wolf.ld live long enough to say that sentence. andrew cuomo isn't simply the governor of new york, he is also something of a pinup model, the chiseled lapse of his brother -- but pretty close. yesterday andrew cuomo let us know that he has a very tough man. very tough man! he put big orange on notice. we will show you the tape if you can stand it, next. ♪ ext. ♪ >> tucker: we opened last night's show by telling you about voter fraud during last week's election. it is real. we said we were going to keep track of's where that investigations are going, and we will. we will be doing it all day amorrow, we will bring you much meatier discussion. we want to bring up-to-date on a couple of developments, and pennsylvania state lawmakers are calling for a bipartisan investment committee with subpoena power to look into voter fraud there.re in florida, a woman who died in 2017 somehow managed to vote. no word on who she preferred. and in puerto rico, which democrats would like to make a state and wil

alex berenson is here to discuss where we go next.back. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, if you're celebrating thanksgiving tonight with other living human beings, you're a crazy person. we assume your other hobbies or free solo rock climbing, skydiving without a parachute. you're into risks. in fact, you are a lawbreaker that needs to be disciplined. that is what political leaders are telling us. h that is where we are in this country right now. how did we get here? and how are we ever going to get back what we thought was normal? alex berenson has thought more about this than any person in the united states. he is the author of "unreported truths about covid-19 and lockdowns," and we are happy to have them on tonight. alex, good to see you. that is the question -- we talk a lot about this, you are a main source of scientific data on this pandemic, but i have never asked you: how do we get back to normal? how do we?to >> how do we -- that is a great question. i want to respond to one point that you made a bit earlier about, you know, what we k

. >> laura: joining me now is alex berenson, former "new york times" reported, author of "unreported truths of covid-19: markdown part two." alex, this is just a preview of what is going to happen to our private lives under this great reset approach to health, security, socioeconomic equality, global harmony. you are beginning to see -- i think a lot of people for the first time -- how far the government can reach into your home. >> oh, you know, i don't know how they will enforce any of this. you know, the advice -- the advice in the spring was stay inside, don't go outside. that advice is clearly ridiculous, to anyone who is paying attention to what contact tracing and epidemiology -- they seem to realize most transmission does occur inside, but instead of telling you believable things like keep your windows open, you know, and understand that maybe your 80-year-old grandmother is at higher risk, they are telling people how to celebrate thanksgiving, which is very odd to me. >> laura: alex, i want to get back to what i talked about in the previous segment, this great reset initiativ

alex berenson is writing some of the most intelligent stuff, the most unaffected, unbiased by politicale right now uncovered but even if he weren't, the idea of censoring him is a profoundly terrifying thing the people i blame more than anybody else for this, people like senator coons are the worst because they are in positions of power and pushing it but the other people, the fourth of state. our republic does not exist without an honest, vigorous media and the most basic thing they are supposed to defend his freedom of speech. they are supposed to fight censorship. not only do they permit they've been doing it themselves this year. i think the 2020 will be a watershed year in terms of what the media has done to completely destroy its own credibility and it's not just themselves they are destroying, it is our republic they are destroying. david: i understand amazon is a private company and free to do what they want but to have a u.s. senator who took an oath to defend the constitution of the u.s., really spit on the notion of what the first amendment is. not only are you supposed to su

. >> mark: she is not alone on wednesday we spoke to alex berenson about amazon's determination to censorhadwick moore is here with spectator u.s.a. and he joins us now. chadwick, these guys shouldn't be working in plusing. if you are triggered at the thought of plusing a book with which you disagree, and it brings you to tears, maybe you should be better off working as a barista or doing casual agricultural labor. [laughter] >> i would have to agree with you if i were in that editorial meeting i think my first reaction if i were making -- the subject of a book we commissioned was making people cry and scream i would first think wow did we make a good business decision. secondly maybe these people need to be fired and the people who hired them ought to be fired. this is nothing new. look at the talent pool they are pulling from. this is the same in book plusing and these once great and still in many ways very, very plusing houses very iconic american brand and we see this in journalism as well is infiltrated with these woke activists who come with the sort of marxist, it's the pipeline fr

william gray, oncologist and hematologist, and alex berenson, former "new york times" reporter. dr.re, this has been obvious for months, so why did it take the media and the medical establishment so long to catch up? >> there may have been political motives for that, but basically of the two components, the chemical part, the antibody, and the cellular immune system, extremely important, they not only kill the cells but store memory cells when challenged with the same infection, they know how to fight the infection and do it more efficiently than the first time around. the good news, laura, is the new vaccines produce a greater immunity than the natural infection themselves, so there's a lot of great news here. >> laura: and alex, on this issue of masks and "the new york times" reporting on that danish study that was considered to be so controversial, people didn't even want to talk about it, what should we take away from this? >> what we should take away, masks are basically useless as a protective measure. there wasn't much doubt about that before, a very good meta-analysis done s