alex branca and the chief officer at idc join us.sue of buying blackberry has been out there for a long time. people use to look at the cash flow. now they look at the business. what do they see? >> when you look at the business you see a couple different parts moving in different directions. john chen did some things that others were not willing to do, which was outsourced manufacturing. that has helped the gross margin story on the hardware business but they are still not growing that business commensurate with the rest of the industry. when you start getting into the software side of the business, the software side of the business is small. it has been growing. you get into the i.t. part of the business, which is a question of what is it worth going forward. in the smartphone business, that could be worth a lot going forward. some of the patents they have are around things we are concerned about right now, which is managing wireless spectrum, security, and the physical fundamentals around how you actually -- what you can do with a

alex branca, blackberry reporter, thank you very much. another big mover, tesla -- shares closed down 6%. elon umusk said the company will not be profitable until 2020. tesla facing issues as the world's largest auto market, china. here is elon musk speaking to automotive news world congress in detroit. >> things were a little weaker in china, but just because of some communications issues we had fixed, most important live run charging. people have a misperception that charging is difficult in china. we have got to work to correct that misperception. >> those darn consumers, they don't know how great the car is. we spoke with ben callow. i asked him about tesla's china problems. >> tesla entered china with high expectations. i think they're learning the market is more difficult than they originally thought infrastructure wise and education-wise, around electric vehicles as well. >> isn't it true of any product out there, those customers don't know they need to buy more of this stuff? >> it is their fault. >> he was saying that we need to