either get a grip or get out of the way or let off that a clear out the well, that's now speak with alex campbell. he's a political strategist and was also the spokesman for former british prime minister, tony bland. he joins us from london. mister campbell, this is obviously a big moment for chemist on that. now, as someone who's been part of the labor party is political establishment, what's your assessment of how he did today? it is, well, i think he's at a bit of a bruising. we've been all sorts of divisions exposed on the party conference in brighton. and of course, you know, most of his leadership has been during the period of a condom make, which is not easy to be taking on the government and says, you know, terms of gender on policy when the country is consumed with what is a national and the global crisis, but i thought we did very well today, and i think that the country is beginning to fear the korea johnson. and i'll be very open about this. i've always thought boys, johnson with disasters. prime minister, i've always the brakes. it will be a disaster for britain, but i think that the