epstein saw god i'm joined by my guest alex christopher r.-o. in athens he is the director and writer for the dram dot com and in milwaukee we have jennifer a master at she is an attorney and author of the new book about a lawn unveiled all right crossed out rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i was appreciate it ok let me. it was going to blow up you jennifer you've seen the indictments i mean there are 6 indictments 4 of them have to do with trophy 3 years. and 2 perjury charges rounding proceedings in 2006 why do you think it's these specific ones you think it's because. the prosecution thinks they can get this i mean it's like a slam dunk. well one reason that i think these particular charges are here we have a new federal laws that extend the statute of limitations for victims that are still alive and so of the victims that have come forward that have been involved in the litigation they're still alive they'd be in late thirty's early forty's and it would be able to member said make a very credible as a victim th