and here i spoke to alex ducasse from oil change international he's the director of the stop funding fossil fuels program that i asked him why shouldn't africa take advantage of the resource if it results as it has including fossil fuels and i think it's really a decision that's in many ways up to african governments and the people that they represent about what the energy future is ought to be on the continent but i think the issue that our report highlights is that we're talking about a lot of international public money so government backed taxpayer money flowing into africa to support energy development and what we're seeing there from this relatively scarce public finance there's not a lot of this money floating around and we needed to do a lot of work we needed to help address sustainability goals we need to help address development goals we're seeing a lot of that finance flow to fossil fuels and a lot of the time what our analysis discovered is that quite a bit of that money supporting fossil fuels are actually supporting the economic interest of the countries providing the mo

public finance for fossil fuels than for renewables or to talk more about this we can bring in alex ducasse now from oil change international he's the director of the stop funding fossil fuels program there thank you very much for joining us mr ducasse let me begin by asking you thank you why shouldn't africa take advantage of the resources it has including fossil fuels. i think it's really a decision that's in many ways up to african governments and the people that they represent about what the energy future is ought to be on the continent but i think the issue that our report highlights is that we're talking about a lot of international public money so government backed taxpayer money flowing into africa to support energy development and what we're seeing there from this relatively scarce public finance there's not a lot of this money floating around and we needed to do a lot of work we needed to help address sustainability goals we need it to help address development goals we're seeing a lot of that finance flow to fossil fuels and a lot of the time what our analysis discovered is that q