did this debate at the university of miami florida boulder last week and in that case, there was alex epsteing clark and you can find both of those debates on the youtube channel. today we have alex but a different debate opponent and let me briefly introduce, i will read their bios and i believe they will come up to the stage after i introduced them. we are pleased to h have with us and are, professor of atmospheric science and climate scientist who studies science and politics of climatete chang. he's the chair and geoscientist at texas a&m. in 2022 named director of texas center for climate studies. professor served in the clinton administration during the last year serving as senior policy analyst in the white house office of science and technology policy. his latest book introduction to modern climate c change on the 2014 american urological societies wasas j authors award. we are pleased to have alex epstein, the president and founder of the center for industrial progress, author of the also fuels. a philosopher who argues human flourishing should be the guiding principle of industrial

alex epstein. thanks for spending time with us.sition they are talking about, transition to what? it's hike calling for a pitcher out of the bullpen and there is no. pitcher in the bullpen. >> the alternatives have to be superior. the reason they talk about transition is they want a forced transition which means forced transition to fossil fuels that leads to an energy crisis. dan: we only have the battery capacity globally to power the globe for 75 seconds. what you are asking tore to transition right now if you force it is to people to freeze and starve. you are transitioning into something that doesn't exist. >> elon musk is claiming the world can run on so har and batteries. to power the whole world for three days which is the minimum you would need, it would take $400 trillion. unless you are dmeelg zimbabwe cushie, it it's life and death. europe is talking about not being able to keep themselves warm in the winter. what is it, 1840? we are forcibly preventing ourselves from producing the energy and we are preventing the poore

we are also pleased to have alex epstein, president and founder of the center for industrial progress, author of the moral case for fossil fuels. alex is a philosopher who argues human flourishing should be the guiding principle of industrial and environmental progress. he is the author of the "new york times" bestseller theue mol case for fossil fuels. and alex is known for his willingnesss to debate anyone anytime and is publicly debate a leading and five organization such as greenpeace, the sierra club, and 350.org over the morality of fossil fuel use. and finally our moderator for this morning's debates is dan njegomir, the editorial page editor of the denver gazette youral van as a longtime journalist and more than v 25 yr veteran of the colorado political scene. he is been an award-winning newspaper reporter and editorial-page editor, senior legislative staffer at the state capital and political consultant. let's welcome professor dressler and alexd epstein and dan njegomir to the stage. [applause] you just make me babyt because it sounds good. can everyone hear me? well? yes, g

we are also pleased to have alex epstein the president and founder of the center for industrial progress, author of the moral case for fossil fuels. alex is a philosopher that argues that human flourishing should be the guiding principle of industrial and environmental progress. he is the author of "the new york times" bestseller the moral case for fossil fuel. and alex is known for his willingness to debate anyone, anytime and has publicly debated the leading environmentalist organizations such as grains greenpeace, the sierra club and 350.org over the immunology of fossil fuel and finally, the moderator for this morning's debateri is from the denver gazette and is a longtime journalist and more than 25 year veteran of the colorado political scene. he's been an award-winning reporter and editorial page editor, senior legislative staffer at the capitol and a political consultant. let's welcome the professor and alex epstein to the stage. [applause] ♪♪ can everyone hear me? okay. good. let's get right down to the business of it now that you've had the introductions from jennifer. not ever

it was alex epstein debating general wesley clarke and you can find both of those debates on steamboat institutes youtube channel today. we have alex epson, but we have a different debate opponent and let me briefly introduce. i will read their bios, and then i believe they are going to come up to the stage after i introduce them. we're very pleased to have with us this morning professor andrew desler. he's a professor of atmospheric science at texas a&m university. professor destler is a climate scientist who studies both the science and politics of climate change. he is the rita a heinz chair in geosciences at texas a&m in 2022. he was named director of texas a&m's, texas center for climate studies. professor destler also served in the clinton administration during the the last year he served as a senior policy analyst in the white house office of science and technology policy his latest book introduction to modern climate change won the 2014 american meteorological societies louis j. batten authors award. we are also pleased to have alex epstein he is the president and founder of th

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benefiting from a question mark lottery looking rich from a that's for sure we get sat down with alex epsteinds best experts on energy and the details of how it's made and transmitted what works and what doesn't we talk to him for an episode of tucker carlson today here's part of what he told us. ♪ ♪ >> it's considered this perfect thing i would rapidly eliminate fossil fuels by 2050? now china loves this kind of thing because they know that it's not told to do it and even the agreement doesn't even tell them very much but they know that the u.s. and other countries will unilaterally disempower so they've a strategic advantage to what they do is they have a fossil fueled powered economy over 80% fossil fuels which they use to produce unreliable solar panels and wind turbines which then they want us to manage and unfortunately joe biden's plan played right into their hands. >> tucker: renewables that would be industrial wind turbines, solar farms? they are reliant themselves on fossil fuels? >> every form of energy is usually fossil fuels solar and wind in particular their entire supply chain

it was alex epstein debating general wesley clarke and you can find both of those debates on steamboat institutes youtube channel today. we have alex epson, but

we just sat down with alex epstein, who's one of the world's experts on energy and the details of how it's made and transmitted, what works, what doesn't. we talked to him for an episode, tucker carlson today. here's part of what he told us . the first agreement is considered this perfect thing. and what is the say as we need to rapidly eliminate fossil fuel use by 2050? now, what china love is this kind of agreement because they know it's not they're not bound to do it. and even the agreement doesn't even commit them to very much. but they know that the u.s. and other countries will unilaterally disarm power. so it's to their strategic advantage. what they do is they have a fossil fuel powered economy over 80% fossil fuels, which they use to produce unreliable solar panels and wind turbines ,which then they want us to mandate. and unfortunately, joe biden is playing right into and wait a second, renew so-called renewables that would be industrial wind turbines. solar farms are reliant themselves on fossil. yeah, as everything is reliant on fossil fuels. every other form of energy is

recognizing that, you know, we probably overplayed our hand here a bit there's a great book out, alex epstein highly recommend people read, absorb, that fossil fuels are going to play a very important role in the future and regardless of what the -- i think the esg movement is a, is going to come. it's going to go it's not going to be long term in the decision-making process, i think, in the world. >> so the -- >> you got to have fossil fuels if you're going to have a world worth living >> asking a lot of poor countries and lesser-developed countries to make all these sacrifices, while germany's probably going to have to go back to coal or natural gas, china, india, all the more developed countries are going to do what they need to do to take care of their citizens and we're asking countries that are in no position to pay for renewable or to make that transition, we're asking that, and that's going to come to the fore as well what do you think about going to saudi arabia, even ro khanna, who's a friend of the show, congressman, he said mr. president, you're going to saudi arabia to ask for oi