we had an incredibly difficult time finding anyone willing to debate alex epstein. the question is the question was should america rapidly eliminate fossil fuel use to prevent climate catastrophe. and especially notable response from a pulitzer prize-winning author who declined our invitation to debate was this there's no room for debate on these issues. well, we could not disagree more. real and robust debate is urgently needed to ensure that the impacts on freedom prosperity and our standard of living are included in any discussion of energy policy and climate change. steamboat institute is proud to offer today's program as a substantial contribution to the national discourse on these critical issues. as a 501c3 nonprofit educational organization steamboat institute relies on the support of individuals and foundations to carry out our mission of promoting america's first principles and inspiring active involvement in the defense of liberty. i would like to thank our many sponsors of today's program including our title sponsor liberty energy and thank you chris wri