when i met with the show runner alex gansa, and howard gordon, it became really clear that they were incredibly skilled and they were experienced, skillful, and decent. they were not going to be jerks. >> it has also that elements of, you don't really know who is good or bad. but you don't. everybody is flawed. everybody is trying their best. their ideas of what best is are often conflicted. it tries to capture a new kind of anxiety and insecurity that we as a nation are coming to terms with. i don't think there has been a representation of that in television. >> doesn't still surprising in the third season, what carrie does? >> it does. we just finished filming the finale of the third season five days ago. it is very raw. >> tell us. >> i have not seen any of the show in this third season. i filmed it, but i have not seen it played back. it is always different when it has gone through the editing process. >> is different in terms of watching it there. >> it is very different. we are actually filming it and i watched it and it like, oh, all right. it changes, it goes through a filter