how did that phrase first come to be used by someone like alex jones?inology? >> yes, actually, we do, ayman. it was a professor at florida atlanta university named james tracy who had looked online and seen a website for an organization that supplied quote, crisis actors, for example for first responders who were looking to test in a drill their response to a mass tragedy, a mass casualty event. these people would come in, they would pose as victims so they could practice triage and emergency medical care, first aid. this professor then seized on this website and said, these people were all actors! they were supplied by a company to sandy hook, to the town of newtown and they acted in the crisis. whether they were parents, first responders, the staff at the school or officials. and so he betrayed them that way. that use of the term is extremely specific. that is what struck me when i started hearing about the bombing of the hospital at mariupol. >> yes and the interesting thing is the russian ambassador to the united states use that very same phrase, c

and what he was doing essentially was taking slivers of what alex jones was doing on the radio and echoing on fox was in getting it not just more attention but attention that was in commercialize there's a perverse incentive there. then i'm in some line in the sand there would've been a lot more going. that would've been worse for all of us a would've accelerated that movie. >> ohio, gina democrat good morning. >> caller: yes. maybe you were angelo can help me out here for your last guest talk to people walking into the capitol through open doors no police protection i would like to know where i would like to go to see videos of that? i watch all the news channels. could you tell me where i could go to research and see that? thank you. >> i mean, not trained to personalizing the last group they are purely ideological so unfortunate for the caller is really interested in finding that it won't it because it doesn't exist as a right wing myth being pushed by t a larger echo chamber pretty could hear descriptions of c the video echd on talk radio to tens of millions of people. you can hear it

and and during the trump presidency when alex jones is riding high, he had revenues of 50 million a year>> $50 million, much of it. >> genius business model. he was doing, he sells products that are geared to the paranoia and fears of his audience. dry food for your doomsday prep or shelter, untraceable done components so you've got a weapon, don't need to register when the end of times comes. it is vitamin supplements and diet supplements for people who don't trust traditional medicine. fluoride free toothpaste because the fluoride the government puts in your water is meant to write your brain so he sells this stuff out from a warehouse outback from his headquarters, $50 million a year. >> host: taking advantage of his customers with crappy products at the same time using crap to solve that crap. >> guest: yes. you know what? it works. >> watch the full program online anytime, booktv.org. search elizabeth williamson or sandy hook. >> here's a look at some books being published this week. donald trump's 2016 campaign manager and white house manager kelly and conway has a political memoir

they include roger stone, mike flynn, ali alexander, and alex jones. were using a lot of the same security folks. a lot of those -- two of those folks had a direct line to donald trump. flinn was in the oval office coordinating and strategizing about how to overturn the election. what's your sense of the importance of this part of the investigation into whether or not there are ties between donald trump's innermost circle and the extremists themselves. >> so we're getting to the end of the january 6th investigation and we've obviously learned an enormous amounts from that and we've now learned increasingly more from the justice department's investigations, but and the biggest question that still remains is that connective tissue. it is what was -- because we know that donald trump said a lot of this out loud. we know they were outwardly doing so much of this, but that final, major question here which doesn't look like there's an obvious answer because such a small development like this in a court filing raises everyone's attention because that's the qu

alex jones would have been on fox news and what he was doing was taking slivers which was getting more attention this was a perverse incentive. there would have been a lot more. it would have been accelerated. >> host: carrollton ohio, democrat. good morning. >> may be you can help me out here. the last guest talked about people walking in through the capital through open doors and no police protection. i watch all the news channels but maybe you could tell me where i could go. >> guest: if he is interested in finding that it is a myth that is being pushed by the larger eco- chamber echoed for tens of millions of people. you could hear it at night with no, you won't see a video. you won't find the video descriptions because they don'tm exist. >> host: anthony, independent. good morning. >> he doesn't speak out and they are disgraced in their own taking information and distributing it to the public i don't want to get too deep into the weeds but that's thedi problem, acquisition and back in the day before deeply aligned with russia and another partisan player. then filtering it so you'r

if there was an advertising campaign to push glenn black dashcam black off the air, alex jones was -- would be on fox news. glenn black -- land that was profitable for the network. he was doing what alec -- alec jones was doing and doing it on foxx. had there not been some line in the sand, there would be more glenn beck's. it would have -- exhilarated. pres. sec. psaki: democrat -- host: democrat, good morning. caller: your last guest talk about people walking to the capital. i would like to know where i would like to go to see videos of that because i watch those channels and i make my own videos. maybe you can tell me where i could go to research to see it. guest: i am not trying to personalize it but -- they don't have standards. they are ideological. for the caller, if he is interested in finding it, they won't. it does not exist. it is a myth by the echo chamber. you can see descriptions of the video echoed. you can hear at night but you won't see a video because it was not just a casual show. you can find it matching indoors or you can find videos of cops getting overrun and ch

former white house chief of staff mark meadows, deputy chief of staff dan scavino, steve bannon, alex jones list goes on and on. the committees are looking for -- joining me now is political respondent for politico. thank you for being with us, betsy. what happens now? we have subpoenas for these five members of congress, and the committee has determined that they have the right to subpoena them. >> without question, it's unprecedented. previously, the samples of the congressional committees that have subpoenaed members almost entirely committees that had the committee of policing congress, this committee of course is not a congressional policing body, but it is investigative body. the fact they called in all of these members including the republican house speaker, that is a major dramatic step. that is why took it so long to decide whether or not they will go further just politely asking these folks to come and talk to them. the biggest problem they face with this challenge, there's not a lot of tools at their disposal that they can use to try to compel these five members to come and quick

we had alex jones from infowars tell us that our daughter never existed to our face. >> to your face?yet we have two minutes later he says she is alive and living in the bahamas. >> if only? >> if only. exactly. that was my response. they do it to torments and re-traumatize the survivors and the victims of these tragedies. >> you talked about the fact that jessica was 24 when she died. >> yes. >> beautiful woman. doctor that you had. you're wearing her pen. these kids were ten. ten years ago, when she lost her life, some of them were not even born. that they had no idea what they had for them. >> of course. not how can you prepare for this kind of an event? you can only hope that we start addressing the gun issue in our country so we are not burying our babies continually. >> we've seen these incremental changes, -- the organization in connecticut have made incredible strides. >> and they are good friends. we know all of those folks up there. and we were closely with them. >> but we are not seeing changes >> at the national level. until we have change of the national level. we haven't

think it's a majority of people here, but it's certainly reprehensible when you see somebody like alex jonesto justify his views. and i think most gun owners would find that reprehensible. >> it gets into the trust issue, the lack of trust, if you don't believe even the basic reports. and, by the way, the texas officials made it worse by misleading the public for days they caused even more space for conspiracy theory to take root, they caused even more room for distrust and doubt. i don't think we're ever going to have folks agree on the basic narrative of what happened in that school because we were lied to for days. clara, the media always gets in this rinse/repeat cycle. usually five days after a mass shooting we're starting to move on. i searched the transcripts on fox this weekend. they talked about uvalde half as much as msnbc yesterday. already there's a beginning of a move away from this story. is there any way to change that? do you see any difference? >> i think that the american public is fed up. they've been fed up on this issue for a long time now. how that manifests itself into

to see you again these are the same conspiracy theories that were tragically and sadly pushed by alex jonesxplain why they now permeated and taken hold even more? >> it's so tragic, ayman, i feel for the families that have to hear this kind of herb edge. the community of course, grieving such loss and confronted with -- part of the reason why it's brad, is the embrace that donald trump gives conspiracy theories that and his supporters and congress, kind of the bullhorn effect that they provide to this kind of garbage. the way they legitimize these people, and the question is, what do we do and how do we fight against it, if we can't agree that a shrink -- actually legitimately it's really hard then to actually build political compromise to get something done. >> igor, set the record straight for us here, the new york times reports that the nra has been weekend by scandal and eternal conflict over the past few years. are you seeing any evidence at this convention, this weekend that their strength is severely diminished, on the other hand you have the rank and file the republicans still wanti

alex jones lost four defamation suits for claiming the same against the sandy hook shootings.>> it's devastating. unfortunately this is a narrative that gets repeated after every school shooting and mass shooting and there are many of them in this country. >> some of the other targets of these lies, undocumented immigrants, transgender people. we know there are groups online who often spread disinformation. is there any way to get this stuff down? is this all tracked? talk a little bit about how to keep this stuff from getting out there in the first place because it just travels so fast. >> you know, the platforms have actually been fairly fast this time around to try to take done some of these rumors. a quick search on telegram, twitter, gap, shows these sorts of lies are still floating around, that the parents are crisis actors because they were either too emotional on camera interviews or they weren't emotional enough, that a third grader hiding in the cafeteria was a crisis actor, that the dead teachers were crisis actors. it spreads so quickly, whether three screen shots,

because i don't want to believe that justice is talk like alex jones, and they talk like--. >> professorbeneath it. because he can't even see them, and doesn't appear to know that they exist. are the 12 year old girls, in these states, where abortion is going to be illegal very soon. who are raped, and become pregnant, raped by a family member, the come pregnant. at age 12, and justice alito is saying they should be forced, as children, to have children. and it doesn't seem to be something that he is even slightly concerned about. >> well justice alito doesn't even recognize them. they are rendered invisible in this draft opinion. and yet there is such a significant feature in the very modern contemporary anti abortion law, such as the mississippi law. which is the foundation for this draft opinion. you search through the opinion, and the justices leave out any kind of engagement whatsoever on the fact that mississippi, texas, and these other states provide no exception for women who have been raped. for girls who have suffered through incest. and to your point, dahlia, and also yours la

according to the ap -- but as we know, alex jones launched an entire disinformation campaign about theity members prepare themselves for this kind of care -- and how might they cope if that happens? >> honestly, katie, i refuse to have a conversation about that or those theories, because i think by promoting it in the media, we are encouraging it, and disseminating in a way that it shouldn't be. mentioning his name is second only to mentioning the shooter's name to a survivor or their families. what we should be focused on now is the healing of those members of the community, and how we can prevent this from happening again. >> speaking, of and i appreciate that sentiment by the way, speaking of, what kind of gun reform are you looking for? are you looking for the wholesale removal of firearms from the community, or are you looking for gun legislation was something as basic background checks? >> i haven't heard one person in the news, or in my life say that they are looking for the whole removal of weapons. that is a rhetoric that is used by the second amendment far far extremist, and

and that lent that created a fertile ground for the kind of scapegoating that people like alex jones and others capitalized on. and then finally as you and i have talked about countless hours the rise of social media, so whereas once you had kind of a media establishment that was critical of these issues offered critical viewpoints of it and wouldn't privilege the lunatics, you know with space on the dial with editorial access right with the most valuable real estate like on an op-ed page. the reality is facebook has no filters and since it became widely available. i mean you had the advent of the internet and the mid 90s as it moved from an academic medium through the interface of the world wide web to a big public place and you know, we've seen this over here since there was dial-up service we had on bulleted boards extremists trying to exploit that new technology. but then with the advent of facebook, they could literally and there and the the subsequent, you know availability of the iphone. the extremist capitalized on this dramatically and they exploited the loopholes in the sys

they include owen schroyer, the right-hand man of the conspiracy theorist alex jones, enrique tarrio,-time chairman of the proud boys and stewart rhodes, the leader of the oath keepers militia. the times notes a significance of the group chat saying as prosecutors deepen their inquiry into the storming of the capitol, the list suggests that stone his means to be in private contact with key players in the events of january 6th. political organizers, far-right extremists and influential media figures who subsequently played down the attack. brand-new revelations on the key figures involved in the deadly insurrection from the wife of a supreme court justice to the leaders of domestic extremist groups is where we start the hour. joining us, congressman adam schiff of california, a chairman of the intelligence committee. congressman, it's been a huge week of public revelations. i'm not sure how much of this is new information to you or the committee, but if we could start with ginni thomas, and if you can characterize how interested you are in speaking to her and if there are plans to do s

ah, i'm carry, jones, this is alex. is there a life without on going extensive coverage of the killing of sharing? i've actually a wizard, disturbing footage and from the funeral procession procession today in jerusalem, we regret the intrusion to what should have been a peaceful procession. whitehouse expresses regret because short of condemning the attack on this during trimmings. funeral terrain was later laid to rest at mount zion and occupied east jerusalem. 2 days after she was shot dead by israeli forces and an icon of the arab speaking world. we look back at she reads, remarkable career, and the legacy she leaves behind. ah, we begin with a special tribute to our murdered colleague, assuring acclaim. she's been laid to rest of the cemetery and occupied east jerusalem. what her funeral procession was disrupted when israeli forces attacked mourners carrying her casket, prompting widespread condemnation. sharon was shot in the head by is ready forces on wednesday morning, while on assignment in janine and occupied

congressman david mckinley and alex mooney are running for now one seat. >> brian: lawrence jones knows dealership and you said the number one issue is those gas prices. who is responsible? >> the biden administration is responsible. >> lawrence: and you said it was the pipeline. >> yes. i think we need to turn the involve back on that trump had all set up and things would be great. >> lawrence: which is why you're voting for who? >> mooney. >> lawrence: you want to back anybody part of the maga agenda. you want things back to the way it was when trump was president. >> absolutely. >> lawrence: that's what we continue to see. every person that we've talked to said they're going to vote for mooney. ainsley, you know how you were talking about earlier the formula prices and how it's impacting the babies and those mamas. this is a mama right here. katie, tell us about, you were just telling me this story earlier today that you can't get formula. >> no. there's no formula available. my son has to drink sensitive. i'm having another one due in july, and there's no sensitive formula. you can'

jones having breakfast with friends in west virginia. good morning. >> laura: >> lawrence: big day in west virginia. you have mckinley versus alex moodey.on and in support of joe manchin. alex moodey is supported by former president donald trump. what matters to voters? does political drama matter or gas prices, crime and what is happening at the border, which is affecting west virginia because of opioids and fentanyl coming across the border? i will be talking to folks this morning to figure out what matters to them. >> todd: take a look at your calendar, less than six months away from the midterms. we're in the thick of it now, this is campaign season, this is election season, we're here. aren't you excited? >> todd: i'm so excited, i'll be doing a diner every week, pretty much. it is important. we look at polls and go out and talk with folks at diners, they present a different perspective to us and there is a lot facing the country. you have crime and the economy and rising inflation and supply chain crisis and what is happening at the border and the big debate with abortion and roe v. wade. what matters to voters, the polls right, w

primaries today two incumbents facing off, alex mooney endorsed by trump, david mckinley received support from senator joe manchin. look whose here, lawrence jonesa diner in west virginia. greetings, lawrence. this is another test of trump's influence on the gop. what have you heard from the voters there? lawrence: hey, good morning, brother. this is a big race, and i big race for two reasons. you got mckinley who has been endorsed by joe manchin as well as the governor, a lot of the establishment figures are really backing them, then you got mooney who is support from former president donald trump. they are facing off. when you talk to voters here today, they are going for mooney i know the pundits and a lot of the polling said the other way but it's not the case. another thing i think is important to notice is that you already reported on this the record gas prices are a big problem for voters as well as the economy as well as the supply chain, crime as well as the border and why do the people of west virginia care about the border? because a lot of the kitchen table issues are what matters for those in west virginia. stuart: lawrence is infla