alex nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst. taking your next -- your phone calls for the next 15-20 minutes. doug in florida. caller: good morning, how are you doing? host: good. caller: i had this one question, donald trump's in-laws came from another country and are now citizens. where do they work or do they daughter who lives off her husband who lives of the government, don't they have to go? guest: no. they are american citizens. they were naturalized a few years ago. i may be wrong about that but they do not have to go. i do not think it is right to make them go. i want to apply better roles to everybody. -- rules to everybody. i could not tell you the specific details but i do not think they should go. host: sandy in washington come independent. -- sandy in washington, independent. i wanted to put a little twist here. i am 72. i was born and raised in an agriculture part of the state in idaho. in the 1950's and 1960's when i was in junior high and high school, we had harvest vacations, two weeks every fall, and the kids

alex nowrasteh, how does this change the face of immigration in the future? guest: not clear how this will affect it because there is no actual formula or waiting theme in the regulation that government employees have to follow and we can only presume, based on the intent of the administration and how this rule is more strict, more people will be denied green cars going forward. to give you an example for -- or historical context, between 2000 and last year 1% -- likelihoody high that this will increase going forward. host: the public charge rule that was announced this week, you have probably seen it in the news, our topic for the next half hour on "washington journal." alex nowrasteh is our guest. 1 if you are republican. 202-748-8000, if you're a democrat. an independents call 202-748-8002. illegal immigrants call 202-748-8003. alex nowrasteh, as folks are calling in, you talk about how much welfare and public assistance american citizens use versus noncitizens and what the costs are. guest: another area of the law that is important is most new immigrants

alex nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst.g your next -- your phone calls for the next 15-20 minutes. doug in florida. caller: good morning, how are you doing? host: good. caller: i had this one question, donald trump's in-laws came from another country and are now citizens. where do they work or do they daughter who lives off her husband who lives of the government, don't they have to go? guest: no. they are american citizens. they were naturalized a few years ago. i may be wrong about that but they do not have to go. i do not think it is right to make them go. i want to apply better roles to everybody. -- rules to everybody. i could not tell you the specific details but i do not think they should go. host: sandy in washington come independent. -- sandy in washington, independent. i wanted to put a little twist here. i am 72. i was born and raised in an agriculture part of the state in idaho. in the 1950's and 1960's when i was in junior high and high school, we had harvest vacations, two weeks every fall, and the kids went a

host: we welcome alex nowrasteh, an immigration policy analyst at the cato institute to discuss a new rule impacting immigrants who make use of public benefits and welfare. the acting director of immigration announcing the so-called public charge rule earlier this week. this is what he had to say. >> through the public charge rule be trump administration is reinforcing the ideals